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lolachampcar

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The helicopter CFIs on my field make life easy for me. They are constantly letting me cut in and land along with generally just being on the ball and having a good handle on what is going on around the airport. I try to return the favor by offering a ride in my front seat anytime they have a hankering for flying up side down. Several have taken me up on the offer over the years.

One returned the favor by putting me in a Switzer for a half hour joy ride. Much to my surprise, we fired up, warmed up and, when we were ready to go, she refused to touch the controls. She said she had seen me flying my little RC heli and had no issues with me taking the controls from the get go. I thought she was mighty brave (I've a total of a 1/2 hour intro ride in a Robi eight years ago) but she turned out to be right. It took a couple of minutes to wrap my head around the idea that the focus point was stationary and my butt was moving but otherwise all went well.

The moral of the story for me was heli students can save themselves a BUCKETLOAD of cash by simply going down to the local RC store and buying a small electric heli with some spare batteries. Put the "training wheels" on it and go sit in a garage somewhere until you can hover within a one foot radius.

Your best bet is the really cheap fixed collector birds with no tail gyro although the gyro is almost always built into the speed controller so you may have to settle for the ability to turn it off. The fixed collector forces you to respond to power changes with tail corrections. It also forces you to anticipate as it takes a moment for the motor to push energy into the rotor head.

Anyway, if you can hover a small electric (the big ones are much more stable), you can hover any real one. You will save yourself hours and hours of flight time in the real thing.

Good luck.

Bill
 
Hey - thanks for the input. I've often thought that might be the case. Especially in today's blossoming RC hovercraft technology which is becoming our future flying cars.
 
The helicopter CFIs on my field make life easy for me. They are constantly letting me cut in and land along with generally just being on the ball and having a good handle on what is going on around the airport. I try to return the favor by offering a ride in my front seat anytime they have a hankering for flying up side down. Several have taken me up on the offer over the years.

One returned the favor by putting me in a Switzer for a half hour joy ride. Much to my surprise, we fired up, warmed up and, when we were ready to go, she refused to touch the controls. She said she had seen me flying my little RC heli and had no issues with me taking the controls from the get go. I thought she was mighty brave (I've a total of a 1/2 hour intro ride in a Robi eight years ago) but she turned out to be right. It took a couple of minutes to wrap my head around the idea that the focus point was stationary and my butt was moving but otherwise all went well.

The moral of the story for me was heli students can save themselves a BUCKETLOAD of cash by simply going down to the local RC store and buying a small electric heli with some spare batteries. Put the "training wheels" on it and go sit in a garage somewhere until you can hover within a one foot radius.

Your best bet is the really cheap fixed collector birds with no tail gyro although the gyro is almost always built into the speed controller so you may have to settle for the ability to turn it off. The fixed collector forces you to respond to power changes with tail corrections. It also forces you to anticipate as it takes a moment for the motor to push energy into the rotor head.

Anyway, if you can hover a small electric (the big ones are much more stable), you can hover any real one. You will save yourself hours and hours of flight time in the real thing.

Good luck.

Bill

I fly helicopters, and trying to fly RC helicopters is a challenge. I'll stick with the real ones. ;)
 
You can do it for even less money if you buy (or already own) FSX for your PC or laptop and get a decent set of controls. This is what I did, and was able to hover on my own (all 3 controls) in an R22 with no problem at all on my first intro ride.
The trick was to master all the R22 exercises in the FSX inventory, and then some, to the tune of a hundred hours of so of sim time.
The part that was hard to simulate realistically on FSX was autos, and those required the real deal to learn properly.
 
I was extremely heavy into RC helicopters years ago:

Nitro power:

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Inverted hovering:

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I always wondered if the skills carried over, even if just a little bit. One of these days I'll find out.
 
RC guy here too. I was always told the "real thing" was easier. Started training for ASEL last September and found that it was not nearly as easy as I was expecting. Took me a good 8-10 hours before my feet woke up.:mad2:

Here is one of my RC heli flights from a few years back.:)
 
I never have been able to fly an RC helicopter....
 
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