Flight Dispatcher

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I have been looking at some of the jobs up here, was wondering what all would you need to know for this. There is a oral with the FAA and I found the form but it don't seem to be that big of a deal, just W/B reading weather to PIC ect.

I am a COM-SEL-IA. So I think that I could do this at least untill breakup and the bush starts to open back up.

Anyone ever done this what does it really entail?
 
Have you read the section of the FAR's dealing with getting the Flight Dispatcher ticket? It's Subpart D of Part 61, and there's a lot involved.
 
I must be looking at it wrong, subpart d in part 61 is recreational pilots.
 
14CFR65 Subpart C

Wow Ron, you weren't even close on this one.
 
I've never done it, but I talk to them many times a day. It seems like a decent job. A good friend of mine from college just got a job dispatching for my company, actually. According to him you work four 10 hour shifts per week, get flight benefits on all of our code shares, and get jumpseat privileges. I'd imagine it can be quite stressful at times and quite boring at times, but there could be worse things to do.
 
I work as a dispatcher for a scheduled and on-demand charter (part 135) company. A dispatch license is not required for part 135, but a few of our employees do have one. It is a lot of fun and I really enjoy what I do (though I'd much rather be on the other side flying). I have definitely gained a much greater appreciation for ground operations and logistics and think it has probably made me a better pilot, knowing what goes on in the background.

The written exam is the same as the ATP if you're wondering. Not sure about the oral and practical.

Best,
Jason
 
Are open positions in the dispatch field as difficult to find as open pilot positions these days?
 
Are open positions in the dispatch field as difficult to find as open pilot positions these days?

It varies. Part 121 positions are obviously a little more competitive than 135 or 91 positions. Things are starting to turn around a little it seems, on both ends.
 
It varies. Part 121 positions are obviously a little more competitive than 135 or 91 positions. Things are starting to turn around a little it seems, on both ends.
Agreed. Where I work there is usually some amount of turnover in the "dispatchers" who are called "flight controllers" here because they are not generally licensed. Therefore, they can't do flight planning or file flight plans for the pilots. It seems to me that the job consists of giving charter quotes, arranging logistics (catering, hotel, rental car, etc.) and scheduling crews.
 
I have been looking at some of the jobs up here, was wondering what all would you need to know for this. There is a oral with the FAA and I found the form but it don't seem to be that big of a deal, just W/B reading weather to PIC ect.

I am a COM-SEL-IA. So I think that I could do this at least untill breakup and the bush starts to open back up.

Anyone ever done this what does it really entail?

If you're interested in getting the certificate, here's a good place to start. There's a link on the page which will download a detailed description of the course. I'm not promoting Jeppesen, but it's a sample of the programs that are out there.

http://www.jeppesen.com/industry-so...ercial/training/ground-flight-ops-level-2.jsp

The crash-course version is a month and $4500. Includes cost of the written exam. Successfully pass the course and exam, and you get an additional line on your FAA cert that says "dispatcher".
 
Yes I know its very broad!!!!!!

I need a job, and would love to work in aviation.
 
http://www.lac.lynden.com/shiplac/jobopenings/FlightFollowerJobDesc.html

Ok here is the job, do you think a COM-IA pilot could do it?

Or do you think it would take much more understanding of weather?

Absolutely. And it's a lot of fun (at least from my perspective). Though I'd rather be in the cockpit flying, I really do enjoy what I do as a dispatcher. It's a lot of fun, I'm very much a part of the operation, and I've learned a lot more about ground and flight operations through the work I've completed.

Feel free to e-mail or PM me with any questions.
 
Ok here is the job, do you think a COM-IA pilot could do it?
I agree with Jason and am going to say yes.

Or do you think it would take much more understanding of weather?
At least where I work you need to be able to read the weather well enough so that you can relay it to the pilot. You also need to be able to know when it looks bad enough that you should ask the pilot to give you some kind of odds of making the trip before you book it.
 
Mari, out of curiosity, how do you communicate with "dispatch" when enroute, from the plane?
 
Mari, out of curiosity, how do you communicate with "dispatch" when enroute, from the plane?
When we are in range of KAPA it's by radio on the company frequency. When we are not in range it's with the aircraft phone. However, I would say I've only used the aircraft phone to call home a handful (maybe 3 times) in the past year. They've only called the current aircraft once and I remember being startled when I heard the ringing noise and saw "Phone call" pop up as a CAS message.
 
One of our local girls went to the university and got her aeronautical diploma along with an ATP rating.. She instructed, flew air taxi (some ex presidents and celebrities), flew freight, came back to her flight school/fbo/air-taxi and became their chief pilot... Now she is their dispatcher... I know nothing about the bigs, but at this level they want the dispatcher to know the routes, know the planes, know the pilots, know the business, and when some pilot start giving her a mouth full of excuses about this or that, she can say right back, "Don't give me that baloney, I've done it before, why can't you?"

denny-o
 
I received my dispatch certificate in 1998 after attending a 6-week course at one of the dispatch schools in southern Florida. The course is basically an in-depth instrument training course (using 121 regs), along with transport category aircraft systems, followed by the ATP Written Exam, and a 3-4 hour oral with the Examiner.

I started working at a 121 regional in July '98 for $10 an hour (which wasn't easy to live on in Northern Virginia). I moved up through the management ranks, to a director postion by the time I left. I also worked in the training department as the Manager of Dispatch Training...my pay topped out at $55k at the regional level.

As a dispatcher, most companies schedule you to work four 10 hour shifts, and then 3 days off. The regs state a dispatcher can be scheduled for up to 10 hours (however once you start that shift, there is no limit to how long you can remain on duty, as long as you have 8 hours off prior to your next shift).

You will become very involved in the ATC system (as they have Tel-cons every 2 hours in which the ATC Specialist in involved in). A regional dispatcher typically works about 50 flights in a 10 hour shift. On clear days, the job is very easy - check the wx/notams, enroute wx/radar/satellite, MEL's, runway analysis for each flight, and plan accordingly.

On bad weather days (especially at the hub airport), you will likely have many planes holding at the same time, diverting to different cities (which will require some phone calls/coordination on your part), reroutes, and possibly add in some maintenace issues (in-flight emergencies, maintenance control calling to ask if they can defer an item (add an MEL) to an aircraft (this may also require some coordination on your part).

You will become very familiar with the overall US Route Structure, how ATC tends to work things, as well as large-scale weather patterns (and also local weather patterns). You also tend to get a good education on aircraft systems, the IFR environment, working the fuel numbers quickly in your head, and many other things that make planning easy.

I've honestly found that a good dispatcher makes a better pilot, than a good pilot makes a better dispatcher. We had some furloughed pilots-turned dispatchers that could not quite catch on to the 'big picture' concept, and would get so focussed on the details of why they wouldn't want to divert to a particular airport, that they lost sight of the fact that there were multiple issues, and had to make the best decision based on the operation as opposed to the individual.
That is completely antectdotal evidence, but from my perspective, I found that my flying (specifically instrument flying), and decision making in the GA world was greatly enhanced from my ability to work in a 'big-picture' decision making process, and understanding how things worked on 'the other side.'

Some days are fun, some days not-so-much, but you will no doubt learn a lot about the entire 'system' which will hopefully help your flying decision-making later on when you decide to make the jump back to the cockpit.
 
I wrote an article for a website a few years ago. Follow this link, and in the top left corner, there is a link to Air Traffic Control Links and Articles. Under there is an article titled: A Routine Summer Workday for a Major Airline Dispatcher (Should be regional...I didn't title it myself).

http://www.atcmonitor.com/
 
Thanks going in to talk with them in the morning.

I have been told that they pay good out in the bush for it, but I don't think I will get the wife to live out there for long periods of time.
 
I wrote an article for a website a few years ago. Follow this link, and in the top left corner, there is a link to Air Traffic Control Links and Articles. Under there is an article titled: A Routine Summer Workday for a Major Airline Dispatcher (Should be regional...I didn't title it myself).

http://www.atcmonitor.com/
Nice article.
 
I work as a dispatcher for a scheduled and on-demand charter (part 135) company. A dispatch license is not required for part 135, but a few of our employees do have one. It is a lot of fun and I really enjoy what I do (though I'd much rather be on the other side flying). I have definitely gained a much greater appreciation for ground operations and logistics and think it has probably made me a better pilot, knowing what goes on in the background.

Where I work there is usually some amount of turnover in the "dispatchers" who are called "flight controllers" here because they are not generally licensed. Therefore, they can't do flight planning or file flight plans for the pilots. It seems to me that the job consists of giving charter quotes, arranging logistics (catering, hotel, rental car, etc.) and scheduling crews.
If anyone is interested in a position like this in Denver shoot me a PM. We have a couple openings.

Hmm... it looks like I'm talking to myself here.
 
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