I've been transitioning to an older 172. I was wondering is it normal to run out of elevator sooner, than say the newer/heavier 172's? I had a heck of a time getting the 70's one to power off stall with any flaps in. I got it to break with no flaps, but with flaps it would just kind of mush and not really give a definitive break, held full aft. In the newer ones I never had a problem getting a power off stall to break. The empty CG according to the WB numbers is actually farther aft comparatively if the paperwork is accurate. I would think that would make it easier to stall, no?