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Can you self certify for light sport with your driver's license if you know you have a condition that would keep you from passing a third class medical?

This question was debated at length here recently but I can't find that thread.

My AME says NO.

Many people here said yes.

Since the outside temps are in the single digits today I thought I'd call OKC and see what they say. I spoke with Tyler.

61.23.c.2.iv states:
A person using a U.S. driver's license to meet the requirements of this paragraph mush not know or have reason to know of any medical condition that would make that person unable to operate a light-sport aircraft in a safe manner.

Tyler says that it's the FAA's opinion that the requirements of a third class medical constitute the bare minimum requirements to safely operate an aircraft so, no, if you know you can't pass a third class then, no, you can't self certify. (and this is almost exactly the verbiage that my AME used)

He said this is how they interpret the present FARs as they apply to Sport Pilot. He cannot say this is how they will treat the "driver's license medical" as it applies to private pilot privileges because those rules haven't been written yet.

So, if you're being honest with yourself and the FAA, the only difference is saving about $100 every two years.

FWIW

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Is it not possible for a person to get a sport pilot license, understand completely the self certification process, have a valid drivers license and have ZERO clue what the requirements of a 3rd class medical are let alone be able to determine if they are qualified to meet those standards they have no clue about.

Why make this so complicated? Why read more into it than is there? Who cares what some guy named Tyler thinks at the FAA.

Here is the checklist:
1. You have a drivers license? Yes
2. You have any reason to believe you can't safely operate a light sport airplane in a safe manner? Nope
3. Go fly.

BTW I can't pass a 3rd class medical but I fly with an SI for OSA. Should a sport pilot know all of the ins and outs of all the SIs too. This is silly.
 
Can you self certify for light sport with your driver's license if you know you have a condition that would keep you from passing a third class medical?

This question was debated at length here recently but I can't find that thread.

My AME says NO.

Many people here said yes.

Since the outside temps are in the single digits today I thought I'd call OKC and see what they say. I spoke with Tyler.

61.23.c.2.iv states:


Tyler says that it's the FAA's opinion that the requirements of a third class medical constitute the bare minimum requirements to safely operate an aircraft so, no, if you know you can't pass a third class then, no, you can't self certify. (and this is almost exactly the verbiage that my AME used)

He said this is how they interpret the present FARs as they apply to Sport Pilot. He cannot say this is how they will treat the "driver's license medical" as it applies to private pilot privileges because those rules haven't been written yet.

So, if you're being honest with yourself and the FAA, the only difference is saving about $100 every two years.

FWIW

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http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/medical_certification/sportpilots/response4/

Here is the FAA answer
 
Why make this so complicated? Why read more into it than is there? Who cares what some guy named Tyler thinks at the FAA.

Maybe because he said that is the official opinion of "the office" as handed down by his superiors. And I really don't think it's "reading more into it than is there." It's simply interpreting what is there.


I didn't see anything there that would either confirm or dispel what Tyler said. It's pretty nebulous.

But in either case, don't shoot the messenger. I'm just relaying what I was told is the "official view" of OKC. Call them if you have an issue with it.
 
Maybe because he said that is the official opinion of "the office" as handed down by his superiors. And I really don't think it's "reading more into it than is there." It's simply interpreting what is there.
Then why hasn't "the office" put it in writing?

Rumors don't count.
 
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Maybe because he said that is the official opinion of "the office" as handed down by his superiors. And I really don't think it's "reading more into it than is there." It's simply interpreting what is there.



I didn't see anything there that would either confirm or dispel what Tyler said. It's pretty nebulous.

But in either case, don't shoot the messenger. I'm just relaying what I was told is the "official view" of OKC. Call them if you have an issue with it.

Well, the FAA Flight Surgeon says if a Sport Pilot is concerned about their fitness to fly, see their private Physician. What would a private Physician know about third class medical requirements? I'll take what the FAA has chosen to put in writing over what someone says verbally.
 
Rumors? I'm comfortable that the information I received is accurate. If you're not then knock yourself out, call them and ask them to put it in writing. Let us know how you do.
I'm comfortable that the information that I have is accurate.
 
I didn't see anything there that would either confirm or dispel what Tyler said. It's pretty nebulous.

"You should consult your private physician to determine whether you have a medical deficiency that would interfere with the safe performance of sport piloting duties."

Sounds to me that if you consult with *your* physician (not an AME) and you both agree that you can safely operate an LSA with any medical condition you may have, you are good to go.
 
Rumors? I'm comfortable that the information I received is accurate. If you're not then knock yourself out, call them and ask them to put it in writing. Let us know how you do.

The FAA Flight Surgeon did put it in writing. There is no reference to third class medical standards, only advises to see your family doctor if you are not sure about your fitness to fly. Can't get much simpler than that, not really hard to understand. Perhaps the person you asked has never seen the Flight Surgeons response. Wouldn't surprise me.
 
So, if you're being honest with yourself and the FAA, the only difference is saving about $100 every two years.

FWIW

For the most part true. You can't properly self certify if you have a disqualifying condition, whether caught by your AME or not. But one benefit is for those that are able to get a special issuance, but only after a lot of jumping through hoops to acquire. In that situation, you avoid all of the hoop-jumping and just go fly.
 
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Can you self certify for light sport with your driver's license if you know you have a condition that would keep you from passing a third class medical?

This question was debated at length here recently but I can't find that thread.

My AME says NO.

Many people here said yes.

Since the outside temps are in the single digits today I thought I'd call OKC and see what they say. I spoke with Tyler.

61.23.c.2.iv states:


Tyler says that it's the FAA's opinion that the requirements of a third class medical constitute the bare minimum requirements to safely operate an aircraft so, no, if you know you can't pass a third class then, no, you can't self certify. (and this is almost exactly the verbiage that my AME used)

He said this is how they interpret the present FARs as they apply to Sport Pilot. He cannot say this is how they will treat the "driver's license medical" as it applies to private pilot privileges because those rules haven't been written yet.
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Don't know Tyler, I'd guess he's a well behaved bureaucrat just passing on what the higher up bureaucrats tell him to say.

The "published" regs are clear, meet the medical requirements of the Drivers licence in your state.

In VA, that is:

"If you have a mental or physical condition that may impair your ability to safely operate a motor vehicle, even temporarily, you must provide DMV with a medical statement from your physician, physician's assistant, or nurse practitioner. Some of these conditions include:
  • Level of consciousness
  • Seizures
  • Vision changes
  • Impairment of judgment
  • Loss of motor functions
DMV's Seizure/Blackout Policy, established by our Medical Advisory Board, states that a person must be seizure-free or blackout-free for at least six months to establish medication and regain proper medical control before driving. If a person is currently licensed and DMV is notified that the person has experienced a seizure, loss of consciousness or blackout, DMV will suspend the person's driving privilege for a period of six months from the date of the last episode.
DMV will evaluate the medical information to determine if a driver's license may be issued or restricted."

Note this list is different than the 15 disqualifying conditions for the 3d class. The 3d (or 2d, or 1st) class limitations are irrelevant. So, for example monocular vision is fine for a VA licence, not fine for the FAA medical, so therefore fine for a SP.

Note the top FAA bureaucrat put in writing you "should" see a physician if in doubt about whether you can safely fly (the drivers licence standard is higher and says you must (in VA))
 
So I called back, and I actually got Tyler again. I asked him if he could give me anything in writing. He said "no", but I can transfer you over to the light sport group and they may be able to help you.

The gentleman I talked to over there was named Edsel, (no kidding). I relayed what Tyler had told me, and ask his opinion. He said Tyler was mostly right.

You do not, for example, have to pass a colorblindness test because that is not required for daytime VFR. So, no, not all the requirements of a third class medical must be met to fly sport pilot, only those that apply to daytime VFR.

He then went on to use the specific example of medicines and stated that whether you are an airline transport pilot or a sport pilot you cannot fly if you are taking prohibited meds. He used the examples of Cialis and Viagra. I wonder why...??? :)

The bottom line, he said, is that we expect everyone to look in the mirror in the morning and self certify that they can fly that day.

If you want to read their thinking, he said a nice read would be the preamble to the 2004 regulations. It's only 400 pages...and it clearly outlines their thinking behind the requirements for the sport pilot because that's the year it went into effect.

So it's much more than just having a driver's license in your back pocket, especially when it comes to meds. But it's not a full third class, only the daytime VFR part.
 
I'm thinking both Tyler and Edsel are interns.

Or, they might as well be for what their opinion on this topic is worth.
 
Would it be oversimplifying to say...

The standards for a Class 3 medical are objective.

The standards for self certifying that one is in a condition for safe flight are subjective.

Hence, though they may be related, they are far from being the same.
 
I can never understand why there are pilots that want to complicate and further restrict our privileges. This is one instance where the FAR's and previous Oklahoma guidance are clear and sensible. You have a drivers license and you meet the requirements to have it. If you have questions, talk to your physician (they didn't say call Oklahoma). You self-certify every time you start the engine.

Be a pilot or be a lawyer.
 
I can never understand why there are pilots that want to complicate and further restrict our privileges.

Only trying to clarify since the opinion of my AME was the same as that of both FAA guys I spoke with today. He brought it up in conversation, I was curious as to whether his interpretation held water.

Apparently it does.
 
Here is the checklist:
1. You have a drivers license? Yes
2. You have any reason to believe you can't safely operate a light sport airplane in a safe manner? Nope
3. Go fly.
Note that the Federal Air Surgeon says that as part of Step 2, you're supposed to consult with your personal physician. Failure to do so might easily be considered "willful blindness" and that wouldn't be good for you.
 
Note that the Federal Air Surgeon says that as part of Step 2, you're supposed to consult with your personal physician. Failure to do so might easily be considered "willful blindness" and that wouldn't be good for you.

How come my pilots certificate has to say "English Proficient" but it doesn't apply to the bureaucrats. If they meant "must" they shouldn't have said "should" and they should have put it in the regulation, which is plainly clear.
 
How come my pilots certificate has to say "English Proficient" but it doesn't apply to the bureaucrats. If they meant "must" they shouldn't have said "should" and they should have put it in the regulation, which is plainly clear.
Can't help you there. But if you go against the FAS's guidance, you're well on your way to charges of violating 91.13 "careless/reckless" and 61.53 "medical deficiency" if anything goes wrong. And remember that the FAA gets to define what "medical deficiency" is.
 
So, if you're being honest with yourself and the FAA, the only difference is saving about $100 every two years.

Not So. Glaucoma for example requires an SI. After 8 years with glaucoma, I still see 20/20 and tests document a normal field of vision. That says that it is being handled properly and successfully. I can avoid all the tests that they want for an SI that require a several page form to report the results and then the 6 weeks - 2 months or what ever while waiting for their review. If the SI process made sense, a letter from my doctor stating the above should be sufficient.
 
And remember that the FAA gets to define what "medical deficiency" is.

But expressly because the FAA says "should consult", not "must consult" a physician is a critical legal difference, and places burden on the FAA to prove that *you* had knowledge of that medical condition, and that *you* had access to sufficient, publicly available information that the condition was verboten for flying.

There are many conditions that an AME can't issue in the office but the FAA will issue on an SI after you go through an insane number of tests that do nothing to further your health. There are very few outright denials, if you spend all the money for the tests they want. IMHO, if you would be certifiable under any of those SI conditions, there is no legal question that you meet the medical qualifications for SP if you have a DL.
 
Note that the Federal Air Surgeon says that as part of Step 2, you're supposed to consult with your personal physician. Failure to do so might easily be considered "willful blindness" and that wouldn't be good for you.

Wrong. The FAS doesn't even imply that everyone should consult their doctor before flying as a Sport Pilot. Read the question the FAS is responding to.
 
Thread is trolling for drama. SP rules are simple unless you want to make them complicated for the sake of argument.
 
But expressly because the FAA says "should consult", not "must consult" a physician is a critical legal difference, and places burden on the FAA to prove that *you* had knowledge of that medical condition,
They need only prove that it was more likely than not that you knew it, and that's a pretty low hurdle once they get hold of all your medical records.

and that *you* had access to sufficient, publicly available information that the condition was verboten for flying.
No, they don't have to do that -- only to show that a reasonable person would have realized after appropriate research that the condition did not allow safe flying.

Remember -- this isn't a criminal case where "beyond a reasonable doubt" applies, but "ignorance of the law is no excuse" most certainly does.
 
Wrong. The FAS doesn't even imply that everyone should consult their doctor before flying as a Sport Pilot. Read the question the FAS is responding to.
I never said otherwise, but the original posted question asked about dealing with conditions known to be disqualifying, and so did the quoted FAS response. So please read the question to which I was responding before saying I'm wrong.
Can you self certify for light sport with your driver's license if you know you have a condition that would keep you from passing a third class medical?
 
I never said otherwise, but the original posted question asked about dealing with conditions known to be disqualifying, and so did the quoted FAS response. So please read the question to which I was responding before saying I'm wrong.

The FAS response had nothing to do with a known disqualifying condition for a third class medical. Third class medical standards are not applicable to Sport Pilot.
 
I'm thinking both Tyler and Edsel are interns.

Or, they might as well be for what their opinion on this topic is worth.

Edsel W. Ford, Jr., has been with AFS-610 for many years and is routinely called on by those seeking interpretation in this field. He may or may not be an expert in a give area, but it seems safe to say he is not an intern and it is not likely that he is ill-informed in this area.

Light Sport Aviation Branch
(AFS-610)
AFS-610 manages the light sport aviation operations
national program and develops and publishes guidance
for light sport aircraft operations in coordination with
the Aircraft Maintenance Division (AFS-300), the
Civil Aviation Registry (AFS-700), and the General
Aviation and Commercial Division (AFS-800).
AFS-610 also works with Aircraft Certification and
other directorates and divisions in developing guidance
and policy, airworthiness certification, operations, and
inspection functions.
The branch also does the following
 
Edsel W. Ford, Jr., has been with AFS-610 for many years and is routinely called on by those seeking interpretation in this field. He may or may not be an expert in a give area, but it seems safe to say he is not an intern and it is not likely that he is ill-informed in this area.

Light Sport Aviation Branch
(AFS-610)
AFS-610 manages the light sport aviation operations
national program and develops and publishes guidance
for light sport aircraft operations in coordination with
the Aircraft Maintenance Division (AFS-300), the
Civil Aviation Registry (AFS-700), and the General
Aviation and Commercial Division (AFS-800).
AFS-610 also works with Aircraft Certification and
other directorates and divisions in developing guidance
and policy, airworthiness certification, operations, and
inspection functions.
The branch also does the following

What ever agency you are dealing with, if you want the correct information go to their web site to obtain it. It just takes a little effort to find what you are looking for. I quit calling the IRS a long time ago.
 
Here is a crazy idea stop asking them for their opinion or "guidance" on things. They are an agency they don't make law and you know what they say about opinions.

Before Ron says, "do so at your own peril" lets face it if you auger in you are screwed either way so go fly have fun stop looking to the government to give you permission for everything. Don't read into things stuff that isn't there and don't consult the nanny state for their opinion on things if you don't want them to say no. Government seeks to control what do you think their opinion is going to be. I would be more than willing to take my chances in court worded as it is with "should" and not "must."
 
The thread where this was discussed was called "Heart Attack - What's Next" in the Medical Topics section. Starts around post #9.

I posted the following in that thread:

"§61.53 Prohibition on operations during medical deficiency.
(b) Operations that do not require a medical certificate.
For operations provided for in §61.23(b) of this part, a person shall not act as pilot in command, or in any other capacity as a required pilot flight crewmember, while that person knows or has reason to know of any medical condition that would make the person unable to operate the aircraft in a safe manner."
https://www.faa.gov/about/office_or...am/ame/guide/app_process/general/prohibition/

So, the issue is whether a pilot is "unable to operate the aircraft in a safe manner" rather than the ability to meet all requirements of a particular medical certificate. Why did the FAA use this language ("operate the aircraft in a safe manner") if they actually meant able to meet the requirements of the first, second, or third class medical? Why not just say that then?

Some will argue that all of the requirements of a third class medical certificate are necessary for a pilot to fly in a safe manner. Never offered however, is empirical evidence that this is true.

I have yet to see or be shown any regulatory language that requires a pilot flying with a "Driver's License Medical" to meet the requirements of the 3rd class medical.

I am not an AME, so take it for what you think it is worth.
 
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The FAS response had nothing to do with a known disqualifying condition for a third class medical. Third class medical standards are not applicable to Sport Pilot.
Then I think you need to re-re-read the FAS response again. It speaks of "a chronic medical condition such as diabetes". What conditions do you think they're talking about other than ones which would be disqualifying for Third Class?
 
Here is a crazy idea stop asking them for their opinion or "guidance" on things. They are an agency they don't make law and you know what they say about opinions.
If you're speaking of the FAA, they do in fact make law -- administrative law, in the form of regulations. And those are law, not opinions.
 
Thread is trolling for drama. SP rules are simple unless you want to make them complicated for the sake of argument.

Effectively, too. I am entertained at the outrage.

We should start a poll to fuel the comedy. "What % of Light Sport Pilots do you believe could qualify for a 3rd class medical?"
 
Edsel W. Ford, Jr., has been with AFS-610 for many years and is routinely called on by those seeking interpretation in this field. He may or may not be an expert in a give area, but it seems safe to say he is not an intern and it is not likely that he is ill-informed in this area.

No sh*t? That's really the guy's name? Poor guy.
 
Effectively, too. I am entertained at the outrage.

We should start a poll to fuel the comedy. "What % of Light Sport Pilots do you believe could qualify for a 3rd class medical?"

Probably not many. But I suspect that most could get them anyway, if they really wanted to. They just don't feel like jumping through the hoops and don't need the additional privileges.

Every SI comes with a letter stating that the airman does not meet the standards for the medical that's enclosed, but that the FAA has decided to issue it anyway because they believe that the airman can safely exercise the privileges, despite not meeting the standards for the medical. Even FAA acknowledges that there's a difference between the two. An SI, by definition, is issued to someone who doesn't qualify for the medical being issued.

I also know people who have gone through the SI process because their AMEs incorrectly deferred them for reasons that were not, in fact, disqualifying. What they get in the mail is a letter stating that they are in fact qualified for the medical and don't need an SI, along with the medical itself.

By the way: Last time I checked, about 90 percent of SI applications are approved after the requisite amount of paper passes through the hands of a sufficient number of bureaucrats. That in itself should say something: Of those who by definition don't meet the standards for the medical, 90 percent of those who ask are found to be able to exercises the privileges safely. Doesn't that kinda hint that maybe the standards are a bit extreme?

I believe that a lot of this colossal waste of time and money could, in fact, be avoided were the third-class medical standards revised to be more in line with the kind of flying that most non-commercial pilots do, as opposed to something more akin to medical screenings for the first manned space mission to Ganymede. Some acknowledgment of 20th-Century medical advances that make previously-disabling conditions completely controllable would also be a nice touch.

Recognizing 21st Century medical advances would surely be too much to ask for at least another hundred years.

Rich
 
ONLY a bureaucrat could ever suggest someone go read 400 pages of crap as a "nice read". LOL.

Actually, I sarcastically phrased it that way. The preamble covers all aspects of the sport pilot rule. Here's the pertinent section on the medical portion:

V.5.A.ii. Medical Provisions

Under Section 15 of SFAR No. 89, the FAA proposed to require sport pilot certificate holders; student pilots operating within the limitations of a sport pilot certificate; and higher-rated pilots who elect to exercise only sport pilot privileges to hold and possess either a current and valid U.S. driver’s license or a current and valid airman medical certificate issued under part 67. These provisions, as revised in the final rule, are located under §§61.3, 61.23, and 61.303 in the operating rules where medical certificate requirements for all pilots are found.
Under Section 111 of SFAR No. 89, the FAA proposed to require individuals exercising the privileges of a flight instructor certificate with a sport pilot rating and acting as pilot in command of a light-sport aircraft other than a glider or balloon, to hold and possess a current and valid U.S. driver’s license or a current and valid airman medical certificate issued under part 67. These provisions, as revised in the final rule, are located under §§61.3 and 61.23 in the operating rules where medical certificate requirements for all flight instructors are found.
Under Section 17 of SFAR No. 89, the FAA set forth circumstances under which a medical deficiency would preclude operators from exercising sport pilot privileges. In the final rule, these provisions are located under §61.53 where medical deficiency provisions are found. These provisions are also found in §§61.23 and 61.303.
Comments received on the proposed medical provisions were mainly supportive. A minority of commenters opposed the rule. Several commenters, however, raised questions or offered other alternatives. Some requested that the FAA extend sport pilot medical provisions to recreational, and even private, pilots. A few commenters recommended minor editorial changes.
The FAA has reconsidered the circumstances in which a current and valid U.S. driver’s license should be allowed in lieu of a valid airman medical certificate and has made substantive revisions to the medical provisions in the final rule. These revisions are based on the FAA’s concern that pilots whose airman medical certificates have been denied, suspended, or revoked or whose Authorization for Special Issuance of a Medical Certificate (Authorization) has been withdrawn would be allowed to operate light-sport aircraft other than gliders and balloons under the proposed rule. Therefore, possession of a current and valid U.S. driver’s license alone is not enough to dispel this concern. For this reason, this final rule permits using a current and valid U.S. driver’s license as evidence of medical qualification based on certain conditions. If a person has applied for an airman medical certificate, that person must have been found eligible for the issuance of at least a third-class airman medical certificate. If a person has held an airman medical certificate, that person’s most recently issued airman medical certificate must not have been revoked or suspended. If a person has been granted an Authorization, that Authorization must not have been withdrawn.

These provisions apply only to persons who have held or applied for an airman medical certificate or who have been granted an Authorization. It does not require the pilot of a light-sport aircraft to apply for an airman medical certificate. The words “most recent application” refer to the latest medical application that is in on file with the FAA and on which action was taken. In addition, the words “most recently issued airman medical certificate” refer to the latest airman medical certificate on file with the FAA.

In addition, the FAA has determined that the rule should explicitly provide that a pilot may not use a current and valid U.S. driver’s license in lieu of a valid airman medical certificate if the pilot knows or has reason to know of any medical condition that would make that person unable to operate a light-sport aircraft in a safe manner. This reiterates the requirement of §61.53, but ensures that a person using a driver’s license to exercise sport pilot privileges focuses on it. This does not require a pilot to qualify for an airman medical certificate, but if an individual has any question about his or her medical capacity to fly, that person should consult his or her personal physician. The individual still has the responsibility to determine whether he or she meets the provisions of §61.53.

An applicant for a student pilot certificate seeking sport pilot privileges may be asked whether:
· He or she was found eligible for the issuance of at least a third-class airman medical certificate (if he or she recently applied for an airman medical certificate).
· His or her most recently issued airman medical certificate has been suspended or revoked.
· His or her most recent Authorization has been withdrawn.

The applicant may also be asked whether he or she knows or has reason to know of any medical condition that would make that person unable to operate a light sport aircraft in a safe manner. If the applicant answers “yes” to any of these questions, the applicant will be reminded that while he or she may be issued a student pilot certificate, he or she may not use a driver’s license as evidence of medical qualification.
By incorporating these provisions, the FAA confirms that persons who would exercise sport pilot privileges must consider their medical fitness before operating. If a person should not be exercising airman privileges for medical reasons, that person should not be conducting sport pilot privileges unless and until it is safe for that person to do so.

Comments that supported the proposed medical provisions:

The majority of the comments received on the proposed medical provisions were supportive. Supporting commenters regarded these proposed sections as the most critical part of the action and stated that if the FAA publishes a final rule with more restrictive medical requirements, they would withdraw support for the entire proposal. They stated that using a current and valid U.S. driver’s license as proof of general medical qualification would permit older pilots no longer qualifying for an airman medical certificate to continue flying. In addition, commenters indicated that operators of light-sport aircraft are less likely to jeopardize the safety of surrounding individuals than motorists driving vehicles on public roadways. Commenters indicated that driving a motor vehicle is often more demanding and stressful than piloting an aircraft and that the overall incidence of crashes related to medical incapacitation is very low. According to commenters, most pilots are conscientious enough to take their own health into consideration when making the decision on whether to fly.

Numerous supporters of proposed medical provisions mentioned the financial and time burden placed on pilots to maintain an airman medical certificate, noting specifically the backlog for special-issuance medical certificates. Commenters stated that many pilots cannot obtain a third-class airman medical certificate and that some pilots, while medically capable of flying, cannot afford the medical testing needed to maintain an airman medical certificate.

Many commenters viewed this proposal as a means to allow individuals who have lost their third-class airman medical certificates to operate light-sport aircraft. Commenters identifying themselves as senior citizens commonly shared this view and welcome the opportunity to return to flying after being unable to obtain an airman medical certificate for many years.

Other comments in support may be summarized generally as follows:

· The FAA airman medical certificate is aimed at more stressful tasks like those performed by commercial pilots who often fly IFR.

· FAA airman medical certificates do not provide a guarantee about how a person will feel 2 hours later and do not prevent in-flight health hazards.

· Sport pilots, in particular, do not have that “must get there” attitude.

· As long as the process of §61.53 remains in place, there is no reason to require a non-commercial pilot to hold an airman medical certificate.

· The additional requirement of a driver’s license covers the increase in risk that the public may perceive and is appropriate for the weight and speed of light-sport aircraft.

· The current regime probably leads pilots to avoid doctors and treatments for certain medical conditions (e.g., depression), thus decreasing safety.



FAA response to supporting comments

As stated in the NPRM, the FAA believes that the level of health evidenced by a current and valid U.S. driver’s license is a necessary, minimum prerequisite to safely operate light-sport aircraft other than gliders and balloons. The FAA chose to use state driver standards because they require a minimum level of health to be met before issuance. The FAA recognizes that these standards are sufficient minimum standards for drivers operating their automobiles at high speeds and in close proximity to other automobiles. They also are sufficient as minimum standards for pilots of light-sport aircraft other than gliders and balloons, absent evidence of a medical condition that would make the pilot otherwise unsafe to fly. Further, a state driver’s license may be revoked or suspended for certain offenses that also may impact the license holder’s ability and fitness to fly a light-sport aircraft, thus providing an added level of protection. If the U.S. driver’s license of a person holding a sport pilot certificate or rating (who does not possess a valid airman medical certificate) is revoked or rescinded for any offense--including, among others, substance abuse, excessive speeding, careless and reckless operation of a vehicle, numerous traffic violations--the individual will not be able to exercise sport pilot privileges until the license is reinstated or the person obtains a valid airman medical certificate.

While pilots of light-sport aircraft will be required to hold and possess at least a current and valid U.S. driver’s license, meeting this requirement alone does not equate to fitness to fly. The FAA cannot over-emphasize the crucial responsibility placed on those exercising sport pilot privileges to carefully consider fitness to fly before every flight. The FAA has always understood that pilots’ own judgment regarding their fitness to fly is their most basic and important safety responsibility and that no level of airman medical certification will ever alleviate this responsibility. Those who would exercise sport pilot privileges must understand that, by taking control of an aircraft as pilot in command, they have made an unequivocal declaration as to their belief in their fitness to fly. To ensure that pilots focus on this responsibility, the final rule, as adopted, specifically provides that a pilot may not use a current and valid U.S. driver’s license as evidence of medical qualification if he or she knows or has reason to know of any medical condition that would make that person unable to operate a light-sport aircraft in a safe manner.

The FAA believes that these minimum standards constitute only one aspect of the overall determination as to fitness to fly light-sport aircraft. The possession of a current and valid U.S. driver’s license is not in and of itself sufficient to establish the fitness of the pilot. Therefore, it must be clear that a U.S. driver’s license is not, for the purposes of this action, an FAA airman medical certificate. The FAA cautions that reference to a sport pilot “driver’s license medical” should be avoided because a current and valid U.S. driver’s license does not become a sport pilot certificate holder’s airman medical certificate.

Moreover, the FAA is concerned that a number of commenters believe that the proposed rule would have presented an avenue for pilots who have been denied an airman medical certificate under part 67 to continue to fly. The FAA believes that most pilots who become aware through an airman medical examination of a condition that could prevent them from flying safely would not continue to fly. The commenters reveal, however, that a number of pilots might not give sufficient weight to the evidence of their medical conditions in deciding whether they are fit to fly. The FAA has determined, therefore, that the best course of action for aviation safety is to not allow a current and valid U.S. driver’s license as evidence of medical qualification if a person’s most recent application for an airman medical certificate has been denied or most recently issued airman medical certificate has been suspended or revoked.

The possession of a current and valid U.S. driver’s license in no way constitutes a certification by the FAA that the holder of that license is fit to fly light-sport aircraft-that certification is provided by the pilot alone. It merely allows that the holder has met minimum FAA requirements and is permitted to operate a light-sport aircraft subject to the requirements of part 61 and the pilot’s own determination of his or her fitness to fly.



Comments that supported the U.S. driver’s license proposal for ultralight operations but not for more complex light-sport aircraft operations



One commenter agreed that a U.S. driver’s license is acceptable for ultralights and powered parachutes, but indicated that “all pilots of powered flight (single-engine aircraft) should undergo initial and periodic medical examinations.” According to this commenter, since a third-class airman medical certificate is the current FAA standard for general aviation, it should be the same standard for sport pilots flying within the single-engine category.

One commenter had no objection to those exercising sport pilot privileges being able to use a U.S. driver’s license to verify health. According to this commenter, this proposal can benefit those who cannot pass an FAA medical examination for whatever reason, but the commenter points out that a certain level of physical ability is required for safe flight. This commenter has compiled data that indicates that medical issues are virtually no problem when considering ultralight flight and therefore it strongly objects to a medical physical requirement for those pilots and instructors. Pilot medical data specifically relating to the operation of the significantly heavier and faster aircraft (up to 130 mph) as now proposed by the FAA, however, is not so clear. Therefore, the commenter could not comment on the safety of allowing pilots of heavier, faster aircraft which fly over congested areas and into controlled airspace to fly without a medical examination.



FAA response to commenters who supported the proposal in part

Commenters seem to be suggesting that the FAA adopt separate sets of standards; a two-tiered approach for this rulemaking action that would require airman medical certification for certain sport pilot certificate holders. The FAA did not propose such an approach because, by doing so, the regulations basically would remain as they are today. By establishing new rules and creating a new sport pilot certificate the FAA intends to allow for limited operations in a safe manner that will bring pilots operating ultralight-like aircraft into a more uniform regulatory system. Because the commenters do not describe how the FAA could implement their proposals other than to essentially maintain current regulatory parameters, the FAA could not consider them.



Comments that opposed the proposed medical provisions

One medical organization commented that its general membership was “overwhelmingly against” the NPRM’s recommended use of a driver’s license. According to this organization, the FAA desire for not “creating a significant financial barrier” is without merit with respect to the airman medical certificate. The organization indicated that a 2001 survey of airmen medical examiners with at least a 66% response rate indicates the average cost of a third-class medical is $66.69. Annualized for those under 40, the cost is $22.23 and for those over 40, $33.35, which can hardly be considered a financial burden.

In addition, this organization stated that the NPRM’s conclusion that driving fast in close proximity to other automobiles is safe and achieved by the varied medical clearances for driver’s licenses, as applied across states, is misleading and supporting statistics are glaringly absent. Using only fatal crashes where a driver was reportedly “ill, passed out/blacked out” as a percent of total fatal crashes for just the year 2000 shows 0.9%. This percentage goes up if other driver factors such as medication reaction, not using medication, or other physical impairment are also considered. In 1 year, this figure is nearly five times that of the NPRM-quoted 7-year period where an airman medical certificate is required in aviation. According to this organization, “[t]he FAA’s belief that the medical standards that permit an individual to drive…provides an adequate level of safety to operate…aircraft is not supported. Actually the opposite is true in that the numbers indicate an unreasonable risk to aviation safety for any level of piloting.”



FAA response to comments that opposed the proposed medical provisions

The FAA concurs that, in the case of some applicants for airman medical certification, the cost of an airman medical examination is not cost-prohibitive. If the AME directs an applicant to undergo further testing beyond a standard physical, however, the cost to obtain an airman medical certificate can become more expensive. Under this action, individuals will have to obtain an airman medical certificate if they do not have or do not want to obtain a U.S. driver’s license. The intent of this action, however, is not to recommend a practical fee or to analyze the cost factors for obtaining an airman medical certificate; it is to assure that, for sport pilot operations, an applicant can meet a basic level of health. The 2001 survey the commenter referenced was a compilation of information obtained from 3,800 individuals over a 4-year period who filled out a questionnaire at FAA-sponsored airman medical examiners periodic training seminars about their familiarity with and use of the Federal Air Surgeon’s Bulletin. It was not specifically a questionnaire aimed at performing an analysis of AME fees.

The FAA does not intend to imply that driving an automobile and piloting an aircraft are exactly similar or that driving fast and in close proximity to other automobiles is safe. The FAA makes the comparison to driving to indicate only that, when compared to sport pilot operations, driving can be more stressful and can require more skill sometimes than flying a light-sport aircraft. For the NPRM, the FAA reviewed accident data relating to the medical condition(s) of a pilot not required to hold an airman medical certificate as a causal factor in general aviation accidents and not accident data relating to a driver’s medical condition as causal factors in fatal automobile accidents. Therefore, the FAA cannot respond to the commenter regarding the 0.9% rate of total fatal automobile crashes in 2000 relating to a certain medical condition of the driver. Further, the FAA does not have enough accidents related to medical causes to be able to assign a yearly accident rate for fatal general aviation accidents. It should be noted, as stated in the NPRM, that the NTSB will investigate any accidents or incidents involving certificated sport pilots, light-sport aircraft, or persons exercising the privileges of a sport pilot. The FAA anticipates working closely with the NTSB to analyze light-sport aircraft accidents suspected of being caused by a pilot’s medical condition.



General opposing comments

Opposing commenters also addressed the following:

· The ease with which a U.S. driver’s license may be obtained in most states.

· The variation in standards among the states.

· The lack of serious medical testing during the application process for a U.S. driver’s license.

· Inconsistent and inadequate vision tests.

· The process for obtaining a U.S. driver’s license differs from that involved with obtaining an airman medical certificate and that driver’s license medical standards and FAA airman medical standards differ.

· The FAA did not enact its 1995 proposal to allow recreational pilots to exercise privileges without an airman medical certificate for many reasons, including safety concerns, and there have been no substantial changes in need or requirements for safety since that ruling.



FAA response to general opposing comments: The FAA reiterates that the intent of this action is not to reduce safety or to encourage those experiencing medical problems, including vision problems, to exercise any type of sport pilot operation. Individuals with medical conditions that would prevent them from flying safely must not exercise sport pilot privileges. Additionally, individuals using a driver’s license to exercise sport pilot privileges whose most recent application for an airman medical certificate has been denied or whose most recently issued airman medical certificate has been suspended or revoked must not exercise sport pilot privileges.

This action requires a basic level of health for sport pilot operations, if that basic level cannot be met then sport pilot privileges must not be exercised. The intent of this action is not to encourage those who have medical conditions or who may develop a medical condition(s) to become lax about their health and take chances piloting a light-sport aircraft. As it does with all pilots, the FAA recommends that persons holding a sport pilot certificate or rating consult with their private physician routinely and especially if they have any indication of adverse health. The FAA recommends routine vision screening.

The FAA acknowledges that the process to obtain and maintain an airman medical certificate versus that to obtain and maintain a U.S. driver’s license is different and that U.S. driver’s license standards vary from state to state. Even though the process for applying for and renewing a U.S. driver’s license varies throughout the United States, U.S. issuing authorities require applicants to verify some basic level of health on their various driver’s license applications. Each state requires an applicant to meet minimum vision standards. Many authorities require applicants to reveal any medical condition(s) that might preclude them from obtaining a U.S. driver’s license in that jurisdiction. If any of these applicants affirm having received treatment for a medical condition (e.g., stroke or paralysis, brain disorder, heart disorder, seizures) on an application, a licensed physician must further evaluate whether that person should be allowed to drive a motor vehicle. The same is true for an individual who applies for an airman medical certificate who indicates that he or she has a medical condition. That individual’s Aviation Medical Examiner (AME) must further evaluate whether that person should be issued an airman medical certificate. Individuals who are not medically fit to operate a motor vehicle should not exercise the privileges of a sport pilot certificate. It is true that an individual who holds either a U.S. driver’s license or an airman medical certificate could choose to operate a motor vehicle or conduct sport pilot operations when not medically fit to do so. If sport pilots choose to do so, however, they are violating not only the terms of their U.S. driver’s license or airman medical certificate but also the long-standing provisions of §61.53 that pertain to prohibition on operations during medical deficiency. Sport pilots using a driver’s license must also comply with the provisions of §§61.3, 61.23, and 61.303.

The FAA rescinded its 1995 proposal to allow recreational pilots to self-evaluate under the provisions of §61.53 because it had no experience allowing recreational pilots, who may pilot more sophisticated and faster aircraft, to fly without FAA airman medical certification. Conversely, the FAA has had many years of experience allowing pilots of what are considered ultralight vehicles today to fly without medical certification and, based on this experience, believes this rule provides an equivalent level of safety for those being brought into compliance. Validating this experience is the accident data that the FAA has received under the terms of exemptions that have been granted to operate a two-seat ultralight vehicle for training purposes.



Comments that favored extending sport pilot medical provisions to other pilots

Several commenters favored extending proposed sport pilot medical provisions to pilots with higher-level certificates. These commenters contended that the same reasoning and justification proposed for sport pilots should apply to other pilots, recreational pilots in particular, who are subject to many of the same limitations such as those on carrying passengers, use of aircraft not having fixed gear, night flight, and visibility restrictions. It is suggested that the FAA review sport pilot data over time to provide for private pilots to use the sport pilot medical provisions that will be adopted under this rule.

According to commenters it has been adequately proven that existing medicine cannot predict heart attacks or strokes, so elimination of the FAA airman medical examination would have no adverse affect on safety.



FAA response to comments that favored extending sport pilot medical provisions to other pilots



The medical provisions the FAA proposed under this action were proposed for sport pilot operations only. The FAA has never considered expanding these provisions nor would it be within the scope of this action to consider doing so. The FAA agrees with commenters that it must gain experience with sport pilot medical provisions.



Commenters’ general remarks and questions about proposed medical provisions

Some commenters who expressed support for the proposal in principle and for the option of a U.S. driver’s license over an airman medical certificate raised the following issues:

Question: What “known medical conditions” would prevent a person from exercising sport pilot privileges?

Response: The FAA has not established a list of disqualifying medical conditions under §61.53. That could prevent a person from relying on a driver’s license as the sole evidence of medical qualification. If a person chooses to exercise sport pilot privileges using an airman medical certificate, the FAA’s disqualifying medical conditions set forth under part 67 apply. The ability to certify no known medical conditions becomes a matter between the pilot and his or her AME. If an individual’s most recent application for an airman medical certificate has been denied after examination by an AME, that person would not be able to use a driver’s license as evidence of medical qualification.

If an individual chooses to medically qualify for light-sport aircraft operations using a current and valid U.S. driver’s license, then the restrictions and limitations listed on the U.S. driver’s license apply, as do those imposed by judicial or administrative order for the operation of a motor vehicle. The determination as to whether a pilot has a medical condition that would make him or her unable to operate the aircraft in a safe manner is the sole responsibility of the pilot. The ability to certify no known medical conditions that would prohibit the safe operation of an aircraft is a matter about which a pilot should consult his or her personal physician.

Those experiencing medical symptoms that would prevent them from safely exercising the privileges of their sport pilot certificate, or that raise a reasonable concern, however, cannot claim to have no known medical deficiencies.

The FAA acknowledges that those interested only in exercising sport pilot privileges may not seek airman medical certification or may allow their current airman medical certificate to expire. This is acceptable under this rule. Depending on the FAA’s experience under this rule, however, it could choose to establish a list of disqualifying medical conditions or even revert to requiring airman medical certification if it becomes apparent that those exercising sport pilot privileges are not exercising reasonable judgment with regard to their medical fitness to fly.



Question: Is the special issuance of a medical certificate under §67.401 considered a denial of an application for an airman medical certificate?

Response: No. A pilot who has received a special issuance of a medical certificate may also exercise sport pilot privileges using a U.S. driver’s license, provided he or she is medically fit to fly.



Remark: The proposed medical provisions discriminate against the following:

· Those who live in rural Alaska who do not drive and therefore cannot take advantage of the option of using a driver’s license.

· Those who hold foreign pilot certificates or foreign driver’s licenses.

· Those who could qualify for a third-class airman medical certificate but do not choose or otherwise have the need, desire, or money to have a U.S. driver’s license.

· Those pilots other than sport pilots who are required to hold an FAA airman medical certificate.



It is not the FAA’s intention to discriminate against anyone or to disadvantage those who do not have or cannot obtain a current and valid U.S. driver’s license. This action provides an alternate means of compliance with full FAA airman medical certification for sport pilot certificate holders only and for those who are able to obtain and maintain a current and valid U.S. driver’s license only. Standards for those who wish to maintain higher-level pilot certificates and ratings remain unaffected by this action; therefore this action cannot be considered discriminatory against them because operations they would conduct do not fall within the scope of this action.

The FAA understands that there may be individuals in the United States who may have difficulty traveling to their licensing entities to acquire a U.S. driver’s license. The FAA notes that it may be similarly difficult for some individuals to obtain an FAA airman medical certificate. While the FAA appreciates that requiring those holding a sport pilot certificate or rating to hold and possess either a current and valid U.S. driver’s license or a valid airman medical certificate does place a disproportionately higher burden on those individuals who live some distance from the appropriate certification resources, no regulation can have an entirely uniform effect on all entities subject to its requirements and limitations. The FAA believes that these minimum standards are necessary and that it would not be in the interest of safety to alter them because they may place a slightly greater hardship on certain individuals over others.

Because this rule requires a current and valid U.S. driver’s license, a foreign driver’s license would not be acceptable. Because of the events of September 11, 2001 and ongoing harmonization efforts, guidance on issuing U.S. pilot certificates and airman medical certificates based on foreign certificates continues to evolve. Current guidance can be found in FAA Order 8700.1 “General Aviation Inspector’s Handbook,” chapter 29, “Issue of a U.S. Pilot Certificate on the Basis of a Foreign-Pilot License.”



Remark: Many drivers operate motor vehicles while taking narcotics and tranquilizers even when counseled not to do so. Also, individuals who have been advised by their physician not to drive due to a medical condition may continue to drive anyway.

Response: The FAA acknowledges that people may choose to continue to drive and even fly against medical advice or while taking certain medications. What is more, some may not even consult with a private physician about a medical condition or before taking medication. Unfortunately, there are those who will take chances and any action the FAA may take would not dissuade these individuals. Further, this situation can apply not only to drivers and pilots, but to operators of any kind of transport vehicle, machinery, or equipment. Fortunately, however, aviation accident statistics rarely indicate medical factors as probable cause. This would seem to indicate that, for the most part, pilots do not take chances flying when they know they are not medically fit to do so.



Question: Why are the requirements for operating light-sport aircraft higher than requirements to operate gliders?

Response: Today’s technological advances in light-sport aircraft call for a set of standards that could no longer be served by those set forth for balloons and gliders. The FAA is adopting this rule to increase safety in the light-sport aircraft community by closing gaps in existing regulations and accommodating new advances in technology. Therefore, requirements for light-sport aircraft and sport pilot certificate holders are necessarily more rigid than those for glider operations. The FAA believes that a permanent and appropriate level of regulation is necessary. Because the FAA has added more requirements for certification and training for light-sport aircraft, it also determined that some medical provisions for sport pilot certificate holders would be necessary. While airman medical certification is optional for light-sport operations, some minimum level of proof of general good health is warranted. The FAA determined that the ability to meet the medical requirements necessary to obtain a U.S. driver’s license would be appropriate.



Question: Can deaf individuals obtain sport pilot certificate?

Response: Yes. Deaf individuals are eligible to apply for pilot certificates. Deaf individuals interested in piloting should consult the FAA website at http://www2.faa.gov/avr/afs/deaffaq.htm.



Question: Will flight instructors and employees of flight schools be required to adhere to DOT drug-testing policies?

Response: For sport pilot operations, flight instructors and employees of flight schools are not considered “employees who must be tested” as defined under part 121, appendix I. Flight instructors with a sport pilot rating acting as pilot in command of a light-sport aircraft other than a glider or balloon, however, must adhere to the provisions of existing §§61.15, 91.17, and 91.19 regarding offenses involving alcohol or drugs.



Other suggested modifications from commenters
Many commenters provided suggested alternatives to the proposed medical provisions. Among others, these suggestions included the following:

· Institute a fourth-class airman medical certificate;

· Require a third-class airman medical certificate for those with no, or no recent, appreciable flight time;

· Require a third-class airman medical certificate for night flight and IFR flight;

· Require an eye examination at a local clinic in lieu of a U.S. driver’s license;

· Have the option of having an evaluation from a private physician once every 5 years in lieu of a U.S. driver’s license;

· Allow a written medical declaration or certificate of good health to replace the driver’s license for those who do not want to get a U.S. driver’s license or an airman medical certificate;

· Do not allow by-mail or on-line renewals of a U.S. driver’s license for sport pilot operations;

· Have a “grandfather clause” to allow pilots, who might lose airman medical certification but who have a lifetime of flying experience and flying time, to continue to fly the aircraft they have flown all their lives even if that aircraft would not meet the weight restrictions laid out in the proposal.



FAA response to other suggested modifications from commenters

The FAA considered several viable alternatives to airman medical certification. As discussed in the proposed rule, the ARAC also proposed many alternatives. The FAA proposed to allow either airman medical certification as currently set forth under part 67 or a current and valid U.S. driver’s license as a means for holders of sport pilot certificates and ratings to meet medical qualifications because it wanted to avoid creating a new class of airman medical certificate that might not be viable. The FAA already has an elaborate airman medical certification program for higher-rated pilots. If sport pilots do not want to choose airman medical certification then they choose to be subject to the medical protocols established by U.S. driver’s licensing entities. The FAA wanted a viable, proven means of certification such as that already established within the FAA and among U.S. driver’s licensing entities. Creating a new class of airman medical certificate would involve more comprehensive regulations (e.g., amendments to parts 61, 67, and 183) because it would involve new airman certification rules, new medical standards, and perhaps new designees or an expansion of the role of existing designees. It would require a new, special category of disqualifying medical conditions, new forms, new certificates, and further paperwork and recordkeeping requirements that light-sport operations do not appear to warrant. Any of these alternatives proposed by commenters, ARAC, or considered by the FAA would be difficult to regulate and a burden to implement.

While many of these comments for alternatives and additions to the proposed sport pilot medical provisions may have merit, the commenters did not provide cost justification or any detailed discussion of how the FAA could propose adopting and implementing them.



Editorial comments on proposed medical provisions

One organization recommended that proposed Section 111 be entitled “Must I hold an airman pilot and medical certificate as a Sport Pilot Flight Instructor?” rather than “Must I hold an airman medical certificate?” It recommended that proposed Section 111 be reworded to bring the requirement of this regulation in line with the requirements of
§61.183, which is to hold a pilot certificate in order to be flight instructor.

Another commenter suggested that the word “requirement,” used in SFAR No. 89 section 3 (b), should be replaced with the word “reasons.” According to this commenter, “requirements” is not the correct word because “requirements” never prevented anyone from speaking, reading, or understanding English. Using the word “reasons” would allow for consistent usage of the term under current regulations.



FAA response to editorial comments on proposed medical provisions

The comments requesting editorial changes have merit. The FAA adopts medical provisions that more clearly define requirements for flight instructors and that avoid the incorrect use of the terminology “medical requirements.” The terminology the FAA uses under existing §§61.123, 61.153, 61.183, and 61.213 is “medical reasons,” which is correct.



Other editorial change

The FAA is changing the words “current and valid” when referring to an airman medical certificate to “valid” to avoid redundancy. An airman medical certificate is “valid” provided it has not expired as set forth under existing §61.23. Because there are no recency-of-experience requirements associated with an airman medical certificate, the word “current” is redundant and therefore not necessary.

Future Rulemaking on Private Pilots with Weight-Shift-Control or Powered Parachute Ratings
During the process of drafting the final rule, the FAA recognized that it did not specifically propose medical eligibility requirements for private pilots with a weight-shift-control or powered parachute rating. This would have inadvertently defaulted these pilots to a requirement to hold at least a third-class airman medical certificate to exercise the privileges associated with those ratings. This was not the FAA’s intent. However, because the FAA did not propose and seek public comment on allowing private pilots with a weight-shift-control or powered parachute rating to operate those aircraft without holding a third-class airman medical certificate, the FAA must initiate future rulemaking action. It should be noted that persons wishing to operate weight-shift-control aircraft or powered parachutes while exercising sport pilot privileges, but not private pilot privileges, may do so under this rule. In addition, under current rules, a weight-shift-control aircraft can be operated as an experimental powered glider, with an endorsement for self-launching, without an airman medical certificate.
 
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