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Dave Siciliano

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Off to the urologist today: he's in the big hospital near downtown; 45 minute drive for me.

I always find these places interesting and wondered if y'all have the same view of them.

Going up the elevator, three of us on at parking level 1. Ever notice how the floors are marked? There's P1 and P2; 1 through 12, but a mezzaine/lobby also. So, is the first floor really the first floor or is the mezzanine/lobby the first floor? And, which would be on the ground level? Well, I'm not going there; so, doesn't matter.

Anyway, a young lady on the elevator has a name tag that says "Queen". Guy next to me making small talk tells her how unusual that name is and says it reminds him of the rock group. I say that rock group reminds me of Freddie Mercury--the former lead singer. She doesn't know the group much less the former lead singer. He and I begin to feel much older.

I get to the doctor's office; big place; group practice. There's a very large sign saying 'please sign in here' with a big arrow pointing down to a counter top. Seems like a strange place to sign in; should be a pad of paper or something, but being a former military guy--I follow the instructions and get my pen out and try to write on the counter top--not easy! Next thing I hear is; hey! whatayoudoin! I say, I'm signing in, of course! Nurse says, you're supposed to sign the list. What list? I say. She looks around and grabs a list from someone's desk; this list. I point to the sign: doesn't say to sign the list, oh, well, whatever.

A nurse calls me and escorts me to an exam room. She tells me she want a urine sample and will take blood. I ask why. Standard procedure, she says. I tell her I'd like to discuss it with the doctor. I get--THE LOOK. O.K. she says, but you're going to have to do it (ha ha, didn't have ta).

Nice visit with the doc. We set up a follow up visit. I won't go into details. I shed a tear or two and was uncomfortable sittin down the whole way back. Funny guy; told me how everything felt just great. Had some flashbacks to the dialogue in Broke Back Mountain. Funny guys, urologists.

Ever notice after you leave an exam room, you can't tell how to get out? They turn you all around and move you like blindfolding you in a maze. Then, you haveta ask how to get out. They point to an exit sign, but you didn't know that was the exit sign where you pay. Oh well.

On the way back to the elevator, sign on a door says 'janitor closet'. Boy, must be tough to sit in there all day.

I get to the elevator (we're on the 12th--the top--floor). I push the down button and begin to wait for transport. Guy walks over and pushes the down button on the other side. I ask him if the elevator comes faster if we push the down button on both sides. He laughs and assures me it will come twice as fast. We BS a little and an elevator arrives. Since we're on top, we just start walking on when the doors open, but--it's full. One lady yelling on a cell phone; guy in a wheel chair and a pack of humanity. Geesh, we back up. Doors close. Guy asks me, how could the elevator be full if we're on the top floor and it's going down. Idoknow! Maybe it's because we pushed both the down buttons <g>

We finally get on an elevator going down and it fills up on the way. Someone up front says: look at these floor numbers. Whatintheheck is P1 and P2. Since I just left the urologist, I blurt out they are the rest rooms. Place kinna breaks up with laughter. Well, that's how I felt, I was gonna P somewhere!!

On the way out, as I pull up to the parking attendant to pay on the way out, big sign says: Attendant: Closed. Just like the supermarket lines with the lights off with checkers there: this attendant is there, but there's a big closed sign. So I tell her, your sign says you're closed. She says: I'm not closed, I'm here.
I tell her, I can see you're here, but you have sign up that says you're closed.
That'll be $3.
So I paid and left.

Interestin places, those hospitals <g> Very different.

Best,

Dave
 
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haha dave.

urologists are pretty funny people. one of my good flying friends in Plainview texas is a urologist surgeon. what a character. flies an Aerostar and has a very nice single seat glider that he has set some state records with. Setting a state soaring record in Texas is a big accomplishment!
 
Dave -

I'm impressed you were able to take a doctor's visit and turn it in to a post. :)

I just returned from the doctor today for poison ivy (Yuck!). Much of what you described happened to me today--how the heck to I get out of that office when it's done??!!
 
Thanks Dave, I needed a good laugh after the last two days and your post did this body good!
 
Let's see, last time I was at the urologist I was furiously shouting out accusations of malpractice in his crowded waiting room. T'weren't funny to me at all.

Glad yours went better!!
 
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! Dave, I just love your stories!!!! :D This is priceless!!!

Reminds me of that reincarnation story. I'm going to go find that one...it cracked me up!
 
One hospital in the city I was in long ago was owned by a doctor and run with an iron fist by the doctor's wife. Think Leona Hemsley. Evidently the staff was terrified when she made her rounds.

There were SIGNS everywhere, i.e. at each elevator:

[Elevator]
[For use by patients and staff only. NO FREIGHT or carts!]

[UP]
[DOWN]

[Please press the button for your floor once.]

[Hospital staff needing to go up or one floor or down one floor should go up or down the stairs.]


[Please let passengers OFF of the elevator before entering.]




Signs, signs, everywhere signs....


BTW, I was born at that hospital. It has since gone out of business when a new doctor/owner made it a haven for Medicare fraud.
 


[Please let passengers OFF of the elevator before entering.]

Yea, gotta have signs Mikea. Actually, when I worked in a high rise, there was elevator etiquette; one was supposed to let folks get off before they tried to get on. There were a lot of folks in a hurry that just didn't want to let folks get off before they got on. One day I just got fed up and held the door open button after some jerk got on while folks were trying to get off. Finally, we were just sitting there and he said; hey, what's the problem. I said problem was some jerk was pushing his way on while others were trying to get off. He just stood there quietly a minute and a couple other folks in the elevator said a thing or two about how rude that was. Then I left.

Kinna like getting to the fresh vegetable portion of the supermart behind Ms feel every tomato. One day I just stood there and watch a few seconds until she finally looked up. And I said: are there any there you haven't squeezed. And she said she had a right to check what she was buying. I moved around in front of here and squeezed (crushed) a couple tomaters. Said, none of them seemed ripe and left.

Some people! Humff.

Best,

Dave
 
Dave -

I'm impressed you were able to take a doctor's visit and turn it in to a post. :)

I just returned from the doctor today for poison ivy (Yuck!). Much of what you described happened to me today--how the heck to I get out of that office when it's done??!!

Makes one humble when you ask how to get out and the nurse points to a big exit sign over your head. Then you say, with a light colored face, gee, I wasn't sure this was the right exit <g>

Best,

Dave
 
Let's see, last time I was at the urologist I was furiously shouting out accusations of malpractice in his crowded waiting room. T'weren't funny to me at all.

Glad yours went better!!

Wow Ken! There were a lot of word that came to mind at one point in the visit, but the voice wouldn't work for a few seconds there!!

Sorry to hear about your experience. If you care to share, I'm listenin.

Best,

Dave
 
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! Dave, I just love your stories!!!! :D This is priceless!!!

Reminds me of that reincarnation story. I'm going to go find that one...it cracked me up!

Just feel like I'm in another world in those hospitals. Glad it gave you a laugh. Turning stuff like this into something with humor helps keep me sane!!

Best,

Dave
 
I'm looking at two separate facilities for self-pay costs for outpatient surgery. One, I received fantastic personal service from a live human. The other, I had to leave a recording with all the information and they would fax or email the "estimate" to me. Then, I finally get this email with a file attached... a .mdi extension. What's this???

If I can't speak to a human before I go in for surgery, what will I get while it's being done?!?! :eek:
 
At another hospital - a BIG ONE. I had an appointment for a followup call with a doctor on staff. I arrive 15 minutes before the appointment. Receptionist asks me for my hospital patient ID card. I don't have one. "Go across the building to room nnn and have them stamp you out a new card. Tell them the doctor is waiting."

So I go to the room and it's packed with various people arguing Medicare benefits or such. It takes a half hour for me to get up to the desk. I tell them I need the card. Another 15-20 minutes 'til I get it.

I walk back.

I go to the receptionist and tell her I have the card. She looks at me with a blank face like I just stepped off of the spaceship. No recognition whatsoever.

"Why are you HERE?"
I have an appointment with the doctor.
"WHICH doctor?"
Dr. nnnn. The one I came to see when you sent me to room nnn to get the card.
"WHO sent you to get a card?"
YOU did!
"I don't know what you want! THE DOCTOR IS GONE!"

I took my precious new card and broke it into the tiniest pieces possible and littered the floor with it as I stormed.out.

BTW, my experience when I was admitted this place had been an endless series of similar mix ups and confusions. I felt that I was lucky I got out alive.
 
haha dave.

urologists are pretty funny people.

Mine wasn't! I had to visit one for the Big "V" and the day before my appointment, I called to ask if the doc would give me something for my nerves, or should I bring my friend Jack for support. All my friends that had gotten vasectomies were telling me horror stories and I was more than a bit jittery about it. The nurse sez..."Oh, no Mr Brown! The doctor will give you something". So I get there and before the doc starts the procedure, he gives me an injection of 5mg Valium. Now I've had a 5mg Valium tablet before and they're OK. Made me feel calmer. But an injection of liquid Valium was a whole nuther deal! That shtuff was niiiice! So, being in a very highly relaxed frame of mind, I asked the doc..."Does this stuff come in a six pack?" The guy looked at me as if I were an insect that needed to be squished. :eek:

My relaxed state ended with the glare I received from the doc.:(
 
I have an uncle who is a urologist. When I was a kid he showed us a video of one of his surgeries. He was restoring a woman's bladder control. Ewww.
 
Mine wasn't! I had to visit one for the Big "V" and the day before my appointment, I called to ask if the doc would give me something for my nerves, or should I bring my friend Jack for support. All my friends that had gotten vasectomies were telling me horror stories and I was more than a bit jittery about it. The nurse sez..."Oh, no Mr Brown! The doctor will give you something". So I get there and before the doc starts the procedure, he gives me an injection of 5mg Valium. Now I've had a 5mg Valium tablet before and they're OK. Made me feel calmer. But an injection of liquid Valium was a whole nuther deal! That shtuff was niiiice! So, being in a very highly relaxed frame of mind, I asked the doc..."Does this stuff come in a six pack?" The guy looked at me as if I were an insect that needed to be squished. :eek:

My relaxed state ended with the glare I received from the doc.:(

Fun nee. The way Valium worked on me...I still wanted to kill someone, but with Valium, I was cool about it. :D
 
Fun nee. The way Valium worked on me...I still wanted to kill someone, but with Valium, I was cool about it. :D
And a not quite so funny postscript. I had it done on a Friday as per recommendations, and on Saturday I was lying in bed watching a show on PBS about the Kennedy assassination when I started having chest pains. I very rarely ever get heart burn, so I told my wife that my chest hurt. She freaked out and demanded to take me to the ER. As she was driving me to the hospital, I felt better. I guess sitting up made me feel better. I wanted her to take me back to the house. She refused. So I get admitted to the CCU, where I spent the rest of the weekend. Finally on Monday morning they take me down for the treadmill workout. I kept telling everyone that I just had a vasectomy on Friday and isn't this gonna be painful? Nobody seemed to care!
I was crying..."what about my b***s, what about my b***s!?" The nurses said, "you're in here for your heart, you're gonna have to see someone else about your b***s." Suffice it to say, when I was done with the treadmill, I was feeling like I was towing a brick around with me. It hurt!

Lesson learned. If you go to the hospital with chest pains, try not to have achy b***s. They won't care. But as it turned out, I had nothing more serious that a swig of Pepto wouldn't have cured.
 
At another hospital - a BIG ONE. I had an appointment for a followup call with a doctor on staff. I arrive 15 minutes before the appointment. Receptionist asks me for my hospital patient ID card. I don't have one. "Go across the building to room nnn and have them stamp you out a new card. Tell them the doctor is waiting."

So I go to the room and it's packed with various people arguing Medicare benefits or such. It takes a half hour for me to get up to the desk. I tell them I need the card. Another 15-20 minutes 'til I get it.

I walk back.

I go to the receptionist and tell her I have the card. She looks at me with a blank face like I just stepped off of the spaceship. No recognition whatsoever.

"Why are you HERE?"
I have an appointment with the doctor.
"WHICH doctor?"
Dr. nnnn. The one I came to see when you sent me to room nnn to get the card.
"WHO sent you to get a card?"
YOU did!
"I don't know what you want! THE DOCTOR IS GONE!"

I took my precious new card and broke it into the tiniest pieces possible and littered the floor with it as I stormed.out.

BTW, my experience when I was admitted this place had been an endless series of similar mix ups and confusions. I felt that I was lucky I got out alive.
Passavant/Northwestern is the LEADER in fractionalized empires not talking to each other. They're Chicago's UNITED AIRLINES of medicine. Sigh.
 
From now on, whenever things ain't going right, my new war cry is:
"What about my b***s? What about my b***s?"

Golden stuff!
 
My bad Dr stories.

I had been having trouble breathing from my sinus swelling completely up. I had never had this problem nor allergies my entire life. When it happened a second time I went to see an ENT. I walked into the office and filled out the pile of papers, waited 30 minutes past my appointment time and then was finally called in.

As I walked into the the exam room the Dr. greets me with a "hello Scott" and his hand. I have never met this person before BTW. As he shakes my hand he tells me I have a deviated septum and will need surgery. I asked him "Well Tom" (not his real name), "how did you tell that from my handshake?". He asks to be called 'Dr. Smith" (again not his real name), I, being completely unimpressed at this point, mention that I will do that and he may call me 'Mr. Migaldi' and again ask my question. He was a bit perturbed at me now and tells me "fine if you need me to look....". Then proceeds to put a few nose trumpets up into my nose and restates his diagnosis.

I am not one to rush into surgery, especially after a cursory to non-existent exam. I have already decided to get a second opinion. I tell him that I will be doing so and will be seeking out a professional that will spend the time to at least perform a proper exam. That really ****ed him off BTW. I walked to the desk and refused to pay for what I termed 'quackery'.

I then went to another ENT at another practice. He did the exams, rule out tests, and then told me that he had 'guessed' allergies based on my symptoms and had found nothing else. Recommended treatment for allergies and guess what? I have gotten better. When I asked him about the possibility of a deviated septum he laughed and said mine was hardly deviated at all. I then told him of what happened with the first guy, he asked if it was Dr. Smith and when I said yes he mentioned that he was not surprised.

The only time I had to deal with the urologist was for my kidney stone and he was a good guy. He took the time to go over everything with me and answer my question before having to take me into surgery. Yes I needed it too, a 1cm3 stone logged in my ureter.
 
The only time I had to deal with the urologist was for my kidney stone and he was a good guy. He took the time to go over everything with me and answer my question before having to take me into surgery. Yes I needed it too, a 1cm3 stone logged in my ureter.
Lordy, if I had a 1 cm3 kidney stone lodged in MY ureter, I wouldn't even want him to waste time shaking hands with me, just get the damned thing OUT!!! :eek:
 
Lordy, if I had a 1 cm3 kidney stone lodged in MY ureter, I wouldn't even want him to waste time shaking hands with me, just get the damned thing OUT!!! :eek:
Yeah that was pretty much it. When he showed my the scans the reasons for my pain become readily apparent. There was obviously no way to pass it, my kidney on that side was really swollen from all the urine building up behind the stone. It looked real ugly!

Surgery with a lasertripsy. They dilated Mr. Happy and went in with a laser, blasting away at the stone. Still they could not get all of the stone. so much of it was pushed into the kidney and then I had a follow on lithotripsy (sound waves blasting the stone). I had to have a stent put in the urater as well. Later I had to have that removed, once again by going to the only natural opening. It was a pretty lousy month. I still get the willies when I see the stirrups
 
And a not quite so funny postscript. ...

Lesson learned. If you go to the hospital with chest pains, try not to have achy b***s. They won't care. But as it turned out, I had nothing more serious that a swig of Pepto wouldn't have cured.

- I learned one of those lessons. You don't go to the emergency center to see if your blood pressure us OK. They have no choice but to run you through the whole nine yards and run up a $4000 bill. Even then, they'll worry that you'll drop dead in next 90 days and they'll have to answer for it.

One of my doctors said to just go use the machine at Walgreens. Doh! :dunno:

- The other is you HAVE to be prepared to say, "Stop!" Be ready to leave. As with my story and yours the medical departments only worry about their area and the entrenched bureaucracy is not there to help with care. In my case (not that one, but the same hospital) I saw where it actually could have hurt me.

One other other incident from that hospital to prove the point. One morning while I was admitted an orderly came and told me he was taking me to the doctor. I hop on a wheelchair and get dragged down. The doctor says, "Now what are you here for?" I say, " I have no idea." Turned out he was a nn specialty doctor. Nobody told me they were sending me to one, much less when.

Thank god, these guys never scheduled me for surgery. I seriously think if I had gone in the operating room, I wouldn't be here to write about it.
 
See your PM.
PM returned! Thanks, Troy.

The interesting part included was....
The real kicker... after all of that, I found out early yesterday the gall bladder surgery would be $9877 for regular costs at my local hospital, ten miles away. The one that gave me the hassle... $9767 for traveling 35 miles. Ya think a local, more human touch is worth an extra $110? :)

Scott, I think the deviation was in the "professional" you saw. That guy was indeed a quack! My first sinus surgery was jumped by a similar quack. Eventually, another doctor had to do other surgery but he spent the better part of a year handling other matters first. I like doctors who shoot for non-invasive treatments as a first effort. Unfortunately, I don't have that option in my current situation. :(
 
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