Dodged a bullet

Discussion in 'Lessons Learned' started by Timbeck2, May 17, 2017.

  1. MAKG1

    MAKG1 Touchdown! Greaser!

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    Most of us don't fly every day. And theft, vandalism, and critters are much more likely to occur overnight than during an hour you're eating a $100 burger. If the plane sits for weeks on a crowded ramp, you're much more likely to have damage occur during those weeks than while you're taking a leak.

    For the CAP plane, if I just flew the damn thing into base, I'm not spending 20 minutes on another full preflight before flying a sortie. That's time I could be searching, so it gets a walk around and mag check.

    Following your rules, the AFROTC flights I did last month would have spent almost as much time preflighting than flying the cadets (they are very short flights).
     
  2. Glenn D

    Glenn D Pre-takeoff checklist

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    As a Machinist, early in my learning how to make stuff, I learned that you NEVER take your hand off a Chuck Key... Lathe, Drill press, Milling machine, or any other Chuck Key... having seen another student using a Mill fling a key across the classroom and through the glass window, it was forever embedded into my mind.. I think of the towbar as a Chuck Key, it never leaves my hand unless its is in the back of the plane...
     
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  3. FastEddieB

    FastEddieB Final Approach

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    That's fine if everyone is comfortable with it.

    But...

    On Young Eagle flights I do a preflight before every flight. To not do so sends a message to budding pilots: preflights are optional. Given the Law of Primacy, I'd rather not send that message.
     
  4. Lachlan

    Lachlan Cleared for Takeoff

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    I was about to type that exact suggestion. Tow bar pin on the key ring prevents amateurish idiocy from ensuing.
     
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    azure Final Approach

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    I'm an advocate of the "towbar isn't attached to the strut outside the hangar unless my hand is on it" school of thought. ;) When I had a private hangar back in Michigan, I (or my mechanic) frequently left the towbar attached after pushing the plane into the hangar. Much easier to pull it back out that way.

    After all, it isn't as if I'm likely to turn the engine on inside the hangar!
     
  6. denverpilot

    denverpilot Taxi to Parking

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    I watched an idiot do that once.
     
  7. Zeldman

    Zeldman Final Approach

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    I can't take off with the tow still attached. I don't think the plane would lift the tug off the ground....:nonod:
     
  8. MAKG1

    MAKG1 Touchdown! Greaser!

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    Yeah, but starting the engine could still be very expensive.
     
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    denverpilot Taxi to Parking

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    Score one for the twin... haha.
     
  10. Ronbonjovi

    Ronbonjovi Pre-takeoff checklist

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    Glad to hear nothing bad came of it. My CFI has been adamant about safety, as he should be. As I complete the preflight I stand behind the airplane check one last time that the towbar, chocks, and tie downs are removed and gas caps fared into the wind, then ask myself if she looks ready to fly today. When I get back in the airplane I scan over the preflight checklist again before beginning the start engine check. I can understand not doing a full preflight when you land for a restroom break, but just pulling up to the airport and opening the hangar door and jumping in is beyond me. We have a few that do this at our field. I obviously trust my airplane, but don't see a reason in risking my life or expensive property to save a few minutes.
     
  11. ejensen

    ejensen Pattern Altitude

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    A friend has does that if she can't get help pulling out the plane. Can't do it by herself. Nothing in the hangar to blow around.
     
  12. denverpilot

    denverpilot Taxi to Parking

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    With our door systems on ours, there's a pretty high chance an aircraft blowing into the hangar would pop the locks loose and drop the overhead door on the aircraft.
     
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    ejensen Pattern Altitude

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    Don't think our would do that but I'll give her your warning. She has a significant other now so it won't happen very often.
     
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    Radar Contact Line Up and Wait

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    Finally. :)
     
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    sferguson524 Cleared for Takeoff

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    I thought I'd never try and back my car out with the sunshade up in the windshield, but i did the other day.. My almost 3 year old had me very distracted and i started to back out of my spot.... Thankfully i caught it when i turned to look over the other shoulder