Difficult to Learn Avionics

[jesse]

Now wait, what did she pay for? It takes a couple moments to show someone to use a 430 as a flip flop nav/com radio. If that's all they want to pay for they should be able to check out with that and use it as that learning along the way. That's how I first learned the Garmins in a DA-40. I got checked out in an hour and was underway on a trip. By the time I got back I had it reasonably sussed out.

For a VFR only pilot, at a minimum, I make sure that someone knows how to use the COM and VOR portion of the radio. I then also show them how to use DIRECT TO. I also show them how they can get back to the basic nav screen if they get lost (using the clr button). During the course of the checkout I'll have them do a few things on it. It adds absolutely no real substantial cost to the checkout. Probably no cost.

 

[Henning]

For a VFR only pilot, at a minimum, I make sure that someone knows how to use the COM and VOR portion of the radio. I then also show them how to use DIRECT TO. I also show them how they can get back to the basic nav screen if they get lost (using the clr button). During the course of the checkout I'll have them do a few things on it. It adds absolutely no real substantial cost to the checkout. Probably no cost.

Exactly, all the quick basics in the course of a normal check out. Now what makes you believe that these things were not introduced and not just 'not learned'?

 

[Ted]

Exactly, all the quick basics in the course of a normal check out. Now what makes you believe that these things were not introduced and not just 'not learned'?

Henning, we may have agreed on something.

 

[jesse]

Exactly, all the quick basics in the course of a normal check out. Now what makes you believe that these things were not introduced and not just 'not learned'?

Because one should check to see if the student actually learned it. If you read her posts you'll see the instructor kept handling all those things for her -- therefore he didn't check to see if she actually retained a thing. The *only* thing I touch when I'm instructing are the heat/air controls simply because it's too far for the student to easily reach.

When I give a checkout it's just as important to me to make sure the student LEARNED what I taught them as it is to teach them it. That way I know they'll be able to operate the airplane without me.

 

[Ted]

When I give a checkout it's just as important to me to make sure the student LEARNED what I taught them as it is to teach them it. That way I know they'll be able to operate the airplane without me.

You're also a better CFI than a number I've seen.

 

[kimberlyanne546]

For a VFR only pilot, at a minimum, I make sure that someone knows how to use the COM and VOR portion of the radio. I then also show them how to use DIRECT TO. I also show them how they can get back to the basic nav screen if they get lost (using the clr button). During the course of the checkout I'll have them do a few things on it. It adds absolutely no real substantial cost to the checkout. Probably no cost.

I wish she would have done this. Oh well. Great news, hired a new CFI in my plane, he was WONDERFUL, he only added .2 to the Hobbs time (definitely awesome). He explained A LOT without the engine running (it doesn't have AUX power I found out, we had to flip on the master). Nearest, direct to, squelch, com / nav flop, how to "type" in airport codes, etc. We went over everything else, even the overhead speaker to get the AWOS before everyone puts their headsets on, a WORKING ADF which points to Gnoss (huge radio towers) as an alternate way to get back to Petaluma, we didn't do fuel flow or EGT though. I'll need to do those later. I even asked the IA about the fuel vent system and he climbed up with me and showed me how it works inside the gas caps and behind the strut. I love the people there, had two POAers with me too - they both commented how nice and helpful everyone was. Had two flights yesterday to boot, both kick @ss. Guess I'm over my worst flight ever thing. Onwards and upwards.