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Two threads of mine have now been locked. I'll take responsibility for the first (Reverse Highspee). The latest (This Captain is a Jerk) was not, IMO, my fault. I got ambushed by a single poster with an agenda.

Perhaps some guidance could be given to Doug explaining that behaviour is not welcome. His decision to follow my posts and sabotage them with his agenda is paramount to online stalking IMO and I'd like to publicaly ask for your assistance in stopping it.

Thank you,
Captain
 
Hey Captain. It really tough for a board when there is one poster who is "ALWAYS Right".

That's why on the red board I asked to be the Mod for "Medical Matters". No arguments there. If they want it correct information there had to be an arbiter. And so in that venue, I ONLY give certification advice.

This is the diaspora. The "always right" guys have to get tired and leave. That's just how these things are. :(

Sign me, User #(i think) 4 ...or the like.
 
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Bruce,

Thanks. Honestly I'm not even sure I get your meaning. I know that forums tend to be poor forms of communication due to lack of cues and lack of timing control. I hear what your saying about posters the 'have to be right'. Were you referring to me or Doug? I'd guess Doug but there was that post of yours insinuating I was drinking and posting...I was not.

If it were me then I'd argue that I do not think I know everything. In fact, I know next to nothing as evidenced by my complete bewilderment when my threads go south.

I can not sit here and let people call my life a lie. What's happened to me has happened and I'm not going to back down and pretend they didn't to make peace with some online bully.

Maybe my delivery invites these attacks. I honestly do NOT know how to post differently.

Whatever, I think maybe I'm gonna take another break from PoA for awhile. It's a shame too. I really do think that thread would have been a ton better if I had simply left the scab word out and Doug hadn't showed up.
 
Captain said:
Maybe my delivery invites these attacks.
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^^^^ This.


There are negative replies on many of your threads (including the one you are referring to) that aren't from Doug, although his may be stronger.

Me thinks you may be spending too much time looking for personal validation and acceptance by a faceless internet forum -- and maybe measuring your self worth by counting replies that agree with yours after you lead off with a controversial topic.

In addition your reputation on the board was probably set early on.


By the way, train wrecks typically bring more views than sound posts.
 
I can not sit here and let people call my life a lie.
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You can sit here instead and make post after post disparaging your coworkers, calling people names and inventing fanciful things about flying (of which you generally know nothing), and then whine and cry because people may respond to your posts.

Let's not forget that you were the original poster who spend the entire post denigrating a co-worker in very unflattering and unprofessional terms. In fact, later in the thread, you specifically stated that this was the reason you made the thread in the first place.
 
Cap, whether you want to be or not you are a professional troller. Comes with the territory.

FWIW, the people getting their panties in a wad about the guy being a scab should take some reflection in realizing that most (but not all) scabs are exactly this mentality. There is something not right in their minds. They are just a body to fill a seat during a job action. Bottom of the barrel and cannot get hired anywhere else, which explains why this captain was flying a 727 out of MIA during the biggest hiring boom of the professional airline career.


My opinion does not come from discussing labor actions. It comes from years of flying with scabs and non-scabs. There are no absolutes, but there are plenty of safe bets when discussing these yahoos.
 
ElPaso Pilot said:
Me thinks you may be spending too much time looking for personal validation and acceptance by a faceless internet forum.
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+1

I'm always amazed at how quickly some people can quickly rack up big numbers of posts. Kim did it last year, captain this year. Can't help but to wonder if they have actually have an offline life. I don't mean that to be insulting. It just that I've very seriously wondered about it and have also been concerned for some who seem to work so hard to fit in or impress.

In captain's case, he's racked up more posts in just over four months than I have in just over four years. I find that amazing especially since I think even I spend far too much time here and post way too much.

Edit: BTW, Captain, I have enjoyed much of your bantering here. But that doesn't mean that I'm not concerned for you.
 
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Captain said:
Maybe my delivery invites these attacks. I honestly do NOT know how to post differently.
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If that's true, you might want to consider a different outlet other than a GA forum for sharing your views.

Whatever, I think maybe I'm gonna take another break from PoA for awhile.
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Or, as the golf pro suggested to a guy seeking advice "maybe you should lay off for about six months and then quit."
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As El Paso noted, you dug yourself a deeper hole than you can probably crawl out of from the get-go with several threads, including bragging about your ATP log-books and the idiotic reverse high-speed. If you can't recognize your troll-like behavior, you might present your posts on this board to an internet behaviorist that could help you modify your natural inclinations.
 
Captain - I have been wrong and admit it when I am.

Sometimes I am too harsh on people and apologize for shooting from the hip.

Even - at times - I change my mind on something I wrote and offer up an apology for an explanation for how and why I changed my mind.

I can be wrong about anything - acknowledging it means you accept there are others with superior knowledge or, perhaps, you are being a jerk or even you were just lazy and did not actually look up the rules. I have been guilty of all three -

Maybe you could look in the mirror once in a while and see that Jesus is not the reflection . . .
 
comanchepilot said:
Captain - I have been wrong and admit it when I am.

Sometimes I am too harsh on people and apologize for shooting from the hip.

Even - at times - I change my mind on something I wrote and offer up an apology for an explanation for how and why I changed my mind.

I can be wrong about anything - acknowledging it means you accept there are others with superior knowledge or, perhaps, you are being a jerk or even you were just lazy and did not actually look up the rules. I have been guilty of all three -

Maybe you could look in the mirror once in a while and see that Jesus is not the reflection . . .
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:yeahthat:


Except when I look in the mirror an old fart is looking back at me. Is Jesus an old fart? :dunno:


;)
 
Captain said:
Maybe my delivery invites these attacks. I honestly do NOT know how to post differently.
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It does, it's because you typically take on an offensive tone. Consider when you write these to not post for 5 minutes and reread it as if someone else had wrote it, either that or ask your wife to read it and ask her if you sound like a jerk.

I realize that I often sound like an *******, but then, I am an *******, so I accept being called an ******* with a modicum of aplomb.
 
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Captain said:
Two threads of mine have now been locked. I'll take responsibility for the first (Reverse Highspee). The latest (This Captain is a Jerk) was not, IMO, my fault. I got ambushed by a single poster with an agenda.

Perhaps some guidance could be given to Doug explaining that behaviour is not welcome. His decision to follow my posts and sabotage them with his agenda is paramount to online stalking IMO and I'd like to publicaly ask for your assistance in stopping it.

Thank you,
Captain
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Taking it personally?
 
DouglasBader said:
You can sit here instead and make post after post disparaging your coworkers, calling people names and inventing fanciful things about flying (of which you generally know nothing), and then whine and cry because people may respond to your posts.

Let's not forget that you were the original poster who spend the entire post denigrating a co-worker in very unflattering and unprofessional terms. In fact, later in the thread, you specifically stated that this was the reason you made the thread in the first place.
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You've made your point.
 
bbchien said:
Hey Captain. It really tough for a board when there is one poster who is "ALWAYS Right"..
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there are way too many of them on every web page I frequent. but this page is way over populated this way.
 
The arguing was not "community building" regardless of who was at fault.
 
This is America, we don't build communities, we fight for ourselves and ourselves alone.
 
*Digs for song-book and Guitar*

"Quick, anybody know which page for Kumbayah?"
 
Aren't choirs placed close-by so they can be preached to?

Clark1961 said:
I'd call it something along the lines of "you've said your piece."

Master Bader's "points" are generally pointless...
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Henning said:
I realize that I often sound like an *******, but then, I am an *******, so I accept being called an ******* with a modicum of aplomb.
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But you're such an entertaining and eloquent *******!
 
Captain said:
Two threads of mine have now been locked.
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A pointless exercise by the moderators. Nothing stops a person from starting another thread, or taking their animosity to other threads - as evidenced by this very thread. I think next the moderators could try banning posters (or some technical equivalent) - but that is another futile exercise that anyone with the wherewithal could easily circumvent.

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You can sit here instead and make post after post disparaging your coworkers, calling people names and inventing fanciful things about flying (of which you generally know nothing),
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First you say he is disparaging unnamed coworkers, then you imply his stories are fiction. Anonymous fictional coworkers need no defending.

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and then whine and cry because people may respond to your posts.
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There is a very important difference between what a poster on this forum has to say about him and what he writes about others in his stories: the objects of his story are anonymous, possibly even fictional as you seem to imply, while he is not entirely anonymous, and definitely not fictional, so there is a distinct difference both morally and legally.
 
Henning said:
If you were fighting for money and orders rather than the cause, that makes you a mercenary regardless if you are in a military or not.
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No...wrong again. When you enlist you follow orders unless they are illegal...I never said I was fighting for money, I said Uncle Sam,,,the pay is not worth getting killed..like some of my buddy's. I just said the pay was ok...actually kind of sucked for where I was...If you want to call everyone in the military a mercenary it's your right...that's what we fight for...freedom of speech...even if it's derogatory.
 
Anonymous fictional coworkers need no defending.
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Anonymous, as in "Captain Alverez," EAL "scab?" ("I'm flying with Captain Alverez, a guy a few years from retirement (retired now) and an Eastern Scab. I point that out because, well...it's relavant to me to point out any scab when I see them.")

Which part of anonymous do you not understand?

I didn't defend Captain Alvarez; I don't know him. I did note, as did multiple other posters, the negative childish tone taken by "captain."
 
DouglasBader said:
Anonymous, as in "Captain Alverez," EAL "scab?" ("I'm flying with Captain Alverez, a guy a few years from retirement (retired now) and an Eastern Scab. I point that out because, well...it's relavant to me to point out any scab when I see them.")

Which part of anonymous do you not understand?

I didn't defend Captain Alvarez; I don't know him. I did note, as did multiple other posters, the negative childish tone taken by "captain."
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Point taken. My memory of online short stories is abysmal.

I am still confused by your suggestion that the Captain is a phony, so managed to somehow be a phony and yet actually be in the story he claimed to be party to. Since you are a stickler for this sort of thing, you might want to make clear what position you've settled on: the Captain is a phony so the story is fictional, or the Captain is legit and the story is demeaning to its subject.

Myself, I'm very confident that there are people with, ahem, all sorts of oddball personalities that become ATPs, doctors, lawyers, with some making their way all the way to tyrants of whole countries.
 
Henning said:
If you were fighting for money and orders rather than the cause, that makes you a mercenary regardless if you are in a military or not.
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mer·ce·nar·y/ˈmərsəˌnerē/

Adjective:(of a person or their behavior) Primarily concerned with making money at the expense of ethics.
Noun:A professional soldier hired to serve in a foreign army....

Doesn't look like either definition applies.
 
I am still confused by your suggestion that the Captain is a phony, so managed to somehow be a phony and yet actually be in the story he claimed to be party to. Since you are a stickler for this sort of thing, you might want to make clear what position you've settled on: the Captain is a phony so the story is fictional, or the Captain is legit and the story is demeaning to its subject.
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There's no conflict. Without question, the post initiating the thread in question, made by "captain" was demeaning and unprofessional, and "captain" himself has stated that he made the thread with that intent. In fact, he stated that was the purpose of the thread (and to be "compelling"). It was his point. There is no question, then, that "captain" intended to be childish, demeaning, and to put down, regardless of the source of his story.

That the "captain" repeatedly used terminology which was uniquely wrong to that particular story was interesting, as was his reaction when called on it. Even when presented with a simple discrepancy, he said he didn't want to know, and didn't care. He failed to defend it, after it was brought up multiple times, and finally threw a fit (hence, this thread).

This seems to be a routine thing with him, as we've seen in other threads.

As for the issue which others have raised here with contractors being mercenaries, I take umbrage on that subject. A soldier is paid for his or her service, regardless of motive, and wears the same uniform. One soldier might be court-ordered into the military while another might be fighting for God and Country. Yet another might be trying to prove manhood, and another to please his or her father. Still another may be after the GI Bill's educational benefits, the flight training, or the money. Yet, each is a soldier. A contractor, doing the same missions and flying on behalf of the same government, in the same location, is no more a mercenary than the soldier, and every bit as honorable. Whether the contractor is paid more is irrelevant. The big difference is that the contractor doesn't get a flag on his or her coffin.
 
What is wrong with being a mercenary? All it means is your motive for fighting is a paycheck, nothing nefarious until the overt acts of the mission become nefarious.

The US military has been Wall Street's mercenary force since the Civil War.
 
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I bristle at the suggestion that I'm a mercenary. I'm not.

I have done a lot of things on behalf of my government and country, however, for which I've been paid, and they were not done altruistically.

I am not a mercenary.

The US military is not a mercenary force.
 
DouglasBader said:
I bristle at the suggestion that I'm a mercenary. I'm not.

I have done a lot of things on behalf of my government and country, however, for which I've been paid, and they were not done altruistically.

I am not a mercenary.

The US military is not a mercenary force.
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. DOT .
 
DouglasBader said:
I bristle at the suggestion that I'm a mercenary. I'm not.

I have done a lot of things on behalf of my government and country, however, for which I've been paid, and they were not done altruistically.

I am not a mercenary.

The US military is not a mercenary force.
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Ok, but you fit the definition of one.
 
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