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Has the topic of the dead people in the runway (9-27) ever come up?
 
Another interesting piece of history in SAV is the hydrogen bomb that's submerged in Wassaw Sound. A B-47 was damaged in a midair and dropped it on approach coming into Hunter. Never been found either.
 
Interesting. We have several old graves in a tiny plot at the approach end of 07 at 47N, and quite a large cemetery just south of the field. Good neighbors for an airport. :D
 
Velocity173 said:
Another interesting piece of history in SAV is the hydrogen bomb that's submerged in Wassaw Sound. A B-47 was damaged in a midair and dropped it on approach coming into Hunter. Never been found either.
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Broken Arrow.

I'd heard about that but wasn't sure where it happened.
 
Captain said:
Broken Arrow.

I'd heard about that but wasn't sure where it happened.
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Yeah I was stationed at Hunter in the Army. I've shot many ILS RWY 28 approaches right over where the bomb is said to be. Sometimes I thought, if that thing goes off right now, I'm toast. They say it could never go off though because it didn't have the TNT charge on it. Still some rumors say it might have had the charge on it. I don't live there anymore so I'm safe now. :D
 
LDJones said:
:D. Who doesn't love a good conspiracy theory?!?! :yikes:
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:rolleyes::D...

We are told the guvmint has such sensitive radiation detection equipment stationed at ports, NYC and in the DC area that they can detect such slight amounts of radioactive elements that someone with a current chest xray would show up.... Now if they used that same scanning stuff they could easily find a bomb in the water... That is assuming their detection devices are really that good..:dunno::dunno::confused:
 
N801BH said:
:rolleyes::D...

We are told the guvmint has such sensitive radiation detection equipment stationed at ports, NYC and in the DC area that they can detect such slight amounts of radioactive elements that someone with a current chest xray would show up.... Now if they used that same scanning stuff they could easily find a bomb in the water... That is assuming their detection devices are really that good..:dunno::dunno::confused:
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They did a whole Discovery program on that, but there's so much decaying plant matter in the water and radioactivity there naturally that finding a bombs worth in all that muck is a needle in the haystack proposition.
 
N801BH said:
:rolleyes::D...

We are told the guvmint has such sensitive radiation detection equipment stationed at ports, NYC and in the DC area that they can detect such slight amounts of radioactive elements that someone with a current chest xray would show up.... Now if they used that same scanning stuff they could easily find a bomb in the water... That is assuming their detection devices are really that good..:dunno::dunno::confused:
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My brother in law was traveling across the Canadian border on a fishing trip and was stopped by security. They told him his vehicle was emitting a higher than normal amount of radiation and wanted to know why. He had an old compass in his tackle box that had iridium? painted on the little indicator so it would glow at night. It was 40 years old and they could detect it in the vehicle as it passed a check point. :eek:

They took it out and he ran the car past the same check point and "passed" and he was allowed to get the compass back and he was on his way.
 
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I had a pax have one of those radiation blood test thingy's (pretty sure that's the real name of the procedure too). Anyway...

When we landed in the US from Canada he set off the radiation testy thing (another actual name). He had paper work and talked with the CBP about it and it wasn't an issue, but he had to stand on the other side of the plane past the wing tip for us to get scanned as he would set it off if he was any closer.
 
Geico266 said:
My brother in law was traveling across the Canadian border on a fishing trip and was stopped by security. They told him his vehicle was emitting a higher than normal amount of radiation and wanted to know why. He had an old compass in his tackle box that had iridium? painted on the little indicator so it would glow at night. It was 40 years old and they could detect it in the vehicle as it passed a check point. :eek:

They took it out and he ran the car past the same check point and "passed" and he was allowed to get the compass back and he was on his way.
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Captain said:
I had a pax have one of those radiation blood test thingy's (pretty sure that's the real name of the procedure too). Anyway...

When we landed in the US from Canada he set off the radiation testy thing (another actual name). He had paper work and talked with the CBP about it and it wasn't an issue, but he had to stand on the other side of the plane past the wing tip for us to get scanned as he would set it off if he was any closer.
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Soooooooo... For all those who think we cannot find a bomb when the US has VERY sensitive detection devices... Can you explain those and other stories on how good the radiation sensing abilities the guv has .:dunno:
 
N801BH said:
Soooooooo... For all those who think we cannot find a bomb when the US has VERY sensitive detection devices... Can you explain those and other stories on how good the radiation sensing abilities the guv has .:dunno:
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Maybe...there are just a whole lot of planeloads of water, muck, etc. in the harbor?

I can easily see a straight pin on a table a few feet away. Does that mean I can find one in Dodger Stadium? Even if I knew which section it was in?
 
N801BH said:
Soooooooo... For all those who think we cannot find a bomb when the US has VERY sensitive detection devices... Can you explain those and other stories on how good the radiation sensing abilities the guv has .
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It's under water. Every three inches of water cuts the detectable radiation in half. If your sensor is just ten feet away, the radiation is 0.0000000000009% of what it would be, close-up.

Nuclear power plants store their spent fuel rods (still highly radioactive) in artificial ponds. XKCD did a great write-up on this:

http://what-if.xkcd.com/29/

Ron Wanttaja
 
wanttaja said:
It's under water. Every three inches of water cuts the detectable radiation in half. If your sensor is just ten feet away, the radiation is 0.0000000000009% of what it would be, close-up.

Nuclear power plants store their spent fuel rods (still highly radioactive) in artificial ponds. XKCD did a great write-up on this:

http://what-if.xkcd.com/29/

Ron Wanttaja
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Very Interesting.... Thanks, I learned something today....
 
wanttaja said:
It's under water. Every three inches of water cuts the detectable radiation in half. If your sensor is just ten feet away, the radiation is 0.0000000000009% of what it would be, close-up.

Nuclear power plants store their spent fuel rods (still highly radioactive) in artificial ponds. XKCD did a great write-up on this:

http://what-if.xkcd.com/29/

Ron Wanttaja
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You seem to be in the know:

I thought Nuclear power plants used 'heavy water' for this purpose. 3 Hydrogen and 1 Oxygen. I would have thought regular H2O (ocean water) wouldn't do the job of blocking radiation as there are like 1 H3O per 600 H2O molecules occurring naturally.
 
Captain said:
You seem to be in the know:

I thought Nuclear power plants used 'heavy water' for this purpose. 3 Hydrogen and 1 Oxygen. I would have thought regular H2O (ocean water) wouldn't do the job of blocking radiation as there are like 1 H3O per 600 H2O molecules occurring naturally.
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Heavy water still has 2 H and one O, but the H contains a neutron in addition to the proton so the molecular weight is closer to 20 than to 18.

I'm reasonably sure that just plain old water is used in containment things.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_water
Heavy water was first produced in 1932, a few months after the discovery of deuterium.[3] With the discovery of nuclear fission in late 1938, and the need for a neutron moderator that captured few neutrons, heavy water became a component of early nuclear energy. Since then, heavy water has been an essential component in some types of reactor, both those that generate power and those designed to produce isotopes for nuclear weapons, such as plutonium-239. These heavy water reactors have the advantage of being able to run on natural uranium without the use of graphite moderators which can pose radiological[4] and dust explosion[5] hazards in the decommissioning phase. Most modern reactors use enriched uranium with normal "light water" (H2O) as the moderator
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Now I'm confused. Is heavy water not H3O or what? Either way I get modern reactors use normal H2O now?
 
There be three kinds of Hydrogen. Plain old ordinary Hydrogen has one proton and no neutrons (protium); deuterium with one proton and one neutron; and tritium - which has one proton, two neutrons and is radioactive.

Heavy water is 2 Deuterium and 1 Oxygen.
 
All this info has removed my "warm , fuzzy " feeling that the guv has the nuke problem under control......:hairraise::yikes:..

What if.........................................

And this is probably based on a made for TV movie on a 3 rate cable channel...

A towel head who hates America ( what are the chances for that):redface:..

Decides to sneak a dirty bomb into a large city... So they use a semi trailer with a huge water tank in it and suspended in the middle of that tank is the "device".... Will that mask the radioactive material from scanning equipment :dunno::dunno::dunno:......

Keep in mind.. this is ALL just a question so don't send the Ford LTD's with tinted windows over to my house...:eek::rolleyes:
 
N801BH said:
All this info has removed my "warm , fuzzy " feeling that the guv has the nuke problem under control......:hairraise::yikes:..

What if.........................................

And this is probably based on a made for TV movie on a 3 rate cable channel...

A towel head who hates America ( what are the chances for that):redface:..

Decides to sneak a dirty bomb into a large city... So they use a semi trailer with a huge water tank in it and suspended in the middle of that tank is the "device".... Will that mask the radioactive material from scanning equipment :dunno::dunno::dunno:......

Keep in mind.. this is ALL just a question so don't send the Ford LTD's with tinted windows over to my house...:eek::rolleyes:
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If so, it adds just one more question to the ones in my head when I see tank trucks on I-95 that are labelled "Swimming Pool Water".
 
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