Control Tower Hours Adjustments

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  1. Justin M

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    I fly out the LA are in SoCal and almost every Delta shuts down at 5 or 6PM. Every night flight around here is on CTAF.
     
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    My home field, cmi, is one. I forgot about it until I got in the plane last Saturday morning, and instead of an atis recording, there was an automated awos. I did check notams, but assumed I wouldn't be departing before they opened.

    Anyway, we're a class c, and I did all my training here, so I'm very used to talking to ground, tower, & approach. It felt very, very wrong announcing my intentions on the tower frequency and taking off without permission.

    The other club planes are based at bmi, and they didn't get adjusted. I was thinking it was due to being a contract tower, but FedEx has facilities there, so that could be it, too.
     
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    When I looked at the numbers for the airports that are the busiest in current times, something stuck out to me - this has NOTHING to do with traffic volume.

    This has everything to do with going after the locality pay of high COL area controllers. KMYF is the 18th busiest airport in the country right now - hours cut to 8-6 instead of 6-9. KCMA is like 34th. 7-5 instead of 7-9. Yet, you have po dunk level 5 towers staying open
     
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    My point is that the change in hours is different.

    KMMU is under the NYC Bravo, and was open at least until 11:00PM local if not 24 hours until the recent change.

    Are the airports where you fly were already closing at 5, or is that a change in the past 2 weeks?
     
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    This is all within the last few weeks. Towers before this were open till 9pm local time or later.
     
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    Normal hours here were 7a-9p, now 11a-7p. I gotta work on my radio calls, dayum. KLAF Class D.
     
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    For my field it wasn't a reduction in hours but consolidation of frequencies. CD was often combined with ground, but on Saturday CD, ground, and tower was all on tower. Definitely caused about 5-10 mins longer on the ground having to wait a little bit longer to get clearances. Doesn't help that one runway was under construction and some taxiways were closed so there was only one direction flow.

    If it's on the hobbs it counts, though!
     
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    Keeping the controllers to a minimum will insure the system works in the long run.
     
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    Absolutely. The problem is they clearly decided this on other grounds.
     
  11. CharlieHotel

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    FAA data shows MYF 36th YTD or 43rd for March & April.
     
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    Not by movements. FAA uses a mixed criteria to determine how "busy" an airport is that includes number of passengers
     
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    Those numbers are strictly aircraft movements straight from the FAA OPSNET Air Traffic Activity Data System; no passenger anything. Top 50 towers YTD last/current year:

    1 ORD 230,003 230,553
    2 ATL 224,273 225,732
    3 DFW 188,293 189,971
    4 LAX 168,988 174,280
    5 DEN 165,237 166,014
    6 CLT 157,010 158,954
    7 DVT 156,825 158,796
    8 PHX 128,220 137,250
    9 LAS 127,881 133,339
    10 IAH 122,296 123,717
    11 EWR 108,002 122,266
    12 MIA 114,071 116,889
    13 FFZ 113,185 115,383
    14 SEA 112,078 112,904
    15 JFK 106,805 110,420
    16 SFO 109,146 110,366
    17 BOS 102,086 105,191
    18 SLC 97,820 102,798
    19 MCO 102,476 102,714
    20 MSP 101,224 102,686
    21 DTW 100,243 100,724
    22 SFB 99,893 100,158
    23 LGA 87,248 98,300
    24 PHL 95,430 96,901
    25 FLL 90,140 94,760
    26 APA 89,500 90,824
    27 DCA 76,870 90,466
    28 DAB 87,575 88,119
    29 IWA 85,845 87,671
    30 LGB 83,192 87,643
    31 HWO 79,182 83,247
    32 HNL 80,686 80,764
    33 VNY 65,941 79,642
    34 CHD 78,171 79,130
    35 SNA 76,427 78,883
    36 MYF 76,358 78,788
    37 VRB 75,410 76,058
    38 IAD 73,930 75,766
    39 TMB 71,939 72,872
    40 BWI 65,822 69,042
    41 MEM 67,714 68,746
    42 SDL 66,205 68,334
    43 DAL 60,588 67,883
    44 SAN 58,702 67,703
    45 PDX 58,041 67,192
    46 CNO 63,211 66,366
    47 TEB 36,333 66,319
    48 TPA 63,515 65,804
    49 ANC 62,224 64,280
    50 PMP 49,528 63,348
    51 PUB 62,287
     
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    That doesn't reflect strictly the current traffic during the pandemic
     
  15. CharlieHotel

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    No, if you drop Jan-Mar it's like 24 for the month of April.