Cherokee 140 Control Lock?

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    I have a 1965 Cherokee 140 and was wondering if anyone has any recommendations on a control lock for it? The 172 I flew had a hole in the control shaft, to simply place a control lock in, but the Cherokee doesn't have that.

    Have seen some people use the seat belt to keep it in the aft position, so maybe that is my best bet?
     
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    You put your seat belt around the yoke.
     
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    The POH for my old '77 Cherokee 140 simply said, "Aileron and stabilator controls should be secured with the front seat belt and chocks used to properly block the wheels."

    That involves the stabilator being secured in the full-up position, which is not ideal in gusty winds. But at least the Cherokee is less susceptible to upset than a high-wing.
     
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    I bought a bungie cord assortment pack from WalMart and wrap a bungie cord around both yokes like the picture in post #3. I also run one from the yoke to a rudder pedal. Inexpensive and does the job. My plane is hangared at home but thats what I do when I'm away.
     
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    It attaches to the side of the throttle quadrant.
     
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    I don’t have the new piper style throttle quadrant though
     
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    Not a bad idea
     
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    I wonder when they started putting them on Cherokees. My '69 has a control lock as you described above..not the seat belt.
     
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    upload_2017-12-1_14-53-10.png

    Seems like a more effective gustlock than any straps can provide
     
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    On my '68, I just used the seat belt. Nothing to get lost or have to look around for. It only takes a few seconds to buckle it and it gets the job done.
     
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    Does your '69 have a hole drilled through the control shaft like Cessnas? I seem to remember that the '69-'71 Cherokee 140s we had in our flight school had pin-type control locks that went through the shaft like that. But my '77 Cherokee 140 definitely did not, and the POH only mentioned using the seat belt for a control lock.
     
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    Well...I guess I could just go that route.
     
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    Doesn't work with a stabilator lol. Cherokee's don't use an elevator like that.
     
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    Technicality only... ( I knew that, really I did LOL)
     
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    Yes, the pilot's side shaft and guide has a hole drilled into it like Cessna. The control lock has a little red flag that covers the ignition switch when inserted into said hole.
     
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    I just push the right seat back forward and slide the seat until the back is pushing on the yoke....

    Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
     
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    Hmm will have to check that out.
     
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    Using the seatbelt is the POH recommended method on later PA-28s. Dunno 'bout the -140. There are a couple different strap options from third parties.

    I just use the seatbelt and it has been fine in windy Wyoming although the method does invite the tail to lift with tailwinds.
     
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    Yes, including the later -140s. See Post #8.
     
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    Here is a club made gust lock that was used where I trained. It was used on PA-28-161 and 181 aircraft. Seems to do the job. The metal hook clips underneath the panel next to the handbrake, each eye goes over the yoke horn.
     

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    This is what I do… Works like a charm!
     
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    I've used my seatbelt for my 1980 PA28-181. There was an AD/SB? recently of cracks somewhere in the yoke/connection system in 2 aircraft, IIRC. It was hypothesized by some poster that maybe it was related to seatbelt usage. Despite this, I continue to use the belts, but while I have pulled the belts so that there is little play, I have never pulled so hard as to put what I interpret as unnecessary strain.
     
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    I still don't understand how this would work if you don't have the throttle quadrant?
     
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    Seat belt always worked for me.
     
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    That quadrant is where "most people" put the screw in snap anchor. If you don't have a quadrant, you can screw the anchor in directly to your panel and the strap should still have enough length to secure everything.
     
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    The 140 I fly has a similar rig to the one above. It has a snap on button mounted under the panel just left of the quadrant. So it would work even with the old style throttle.
     
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    Ohhh I see lol none of there photos make it obvious to me that there is a snap there ha
     
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    For the last 10 years I have used bungee cord from Walmart to tie the yokes together.