Cessna 182T real world cruise speeds

Found back on some pictures on my phone OAT about 12-18c. Seeing 132 to 142 TAS speeds on these. Pretty new prop as I remember, engine approaching overhaul time.
 
Aviator305 said:
I have a PA-28-236 which is essentially the Piper equivalent of a 182. If I am to extrapolate from my experience, I would wager that the 182 (and -236) lie in the sweet spot for most GA pilots. Either can easily cruise at an honest 135 knots, but the biggest speed mod is the fuel capacity. I can make it from Miami to Charlotte easily without a fuel stop in just over 4 hours. For shorter trips within the state, the difference in trip time compared to a Bonanza or Cirrus is practically negligible (I don’t care if I get to Disney World in 1:15 versus 1 hour). 160knot airplanes make sense for frequent longer trips. My airplane, just like the 182, is very simple to maintain, gets me to where I need to go reasonably quickly, and has a weight and balance profile I couldn’t exceed if I tried unless I bought a few anvils. As far as GA airplanes go, these airplanes are relatively efficient to own and operate.
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And hence your post restates the most often neglected question in aircraft ownership… “What is your 80% mission”? I always love the post that start out with I want, I want to, etc. and then the new owner finds out that he flies 85% of the time by himself, locally 1-2 hrs, because the family is just not into it, and/or, family weekends are taken up with family sports/activities, etc. I only wish it were easier to buy and sell aircraft. Ones needs change over time.
 
Pinecone said:
A place where the 182 shines versus Comanche or Bo or ... is insurance.

Lower insurance for newer pilot without a lot of retract hours. And cheaper for older pilots, why may not be able to insure a retract. If I had waited a few more years before buying, retract may have not been possible.
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And hence the ridiculous pricing currently on 182’s. I believe that market is being driven by the old guys coming back from the retract and twin market as they are driven out by insurance costs or inability to even get insurance on a retract/twin. Id say there is a good $20-30K premium on the 182 market based on that factor alone. Wish those rich Bonanza guys would just stop flying and keep their money! ;)
 
Rcmutz said:
And hence the ridiculous pricing currently on 182’s. I believe that market is being driven by the old guys coming back from the retract and twin market as they are driven out by insurance costs or inability to even get insurance on a retract/twin. Id say there is a good $20-30K premium on the 182 market based on that factor alone. Wish those rich Bonanza guys would just stop flying and keep their money! ;)
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If they are selling, they are not overpriced. A 182 is insurable and many pilots have figured out that not only is it a great plane, it's about the most plane they'll ever need. Anyhow, Cessna will sell you a new one for 700-850k.

Some old guys might be coming back from the Bonanzas, that is true. If a 70 year old ex-Bonanza pilot sells his Bo for 300k to the next generation 35-40 year-old pilot, then of course, if he wants a 182 and all the others do to, the price will rise. The twin market died so long ago it's a rounding error.
 
Rcmutz said:
And hence the ridiculous pricing currently on 182’s. I believe that market is being driven by the old guys coming back from the retract and twin market as they are driven out by insurance costs or inability to even get insurance on a retract/twin. Id say there is a good $20-30K premium on the 182 market based on that factor alone. Wish those rich Bonanza guys would just stop flying and keep their money! ;)
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I think a lot of people saw the market go nuts for trainers about 3 years ago - People were buying OLD 172s for well north of $150K! - and everyone who owned a 172 (or Archer or Cherokee) realized they could upgrade to a 182 or whatever else for not that much more money and started upgrading, which made the rest of the market go nuts.

Right now, I could sell my plane for 2.5x the purchase price, maybe 3x.
 
flyingcheesehead said:
I think a lot of people saw the market go nuts for trainers about 3 years ago - People were buying OLD 172s for well north of $150K! - and everyone who owned a 172 (or Archer or Cherokee) realized they could upgrade to a 182 or whatever else for not that much more money and started upgrading, which made the rest of the market go nuts.

Right now, I could sell my plane for 2.5x the purchase price, maybe 3x.
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In fat numbers, the price of everything in aviation, whether parts, maintenance, or aircraft price, has doubled in the last ten years. It's one measure of the true rate of inflation, since a substantial if not almost all of the GA ecosystem is US made and sourced. That's the real issue. Agree there was a surge of training, so trainers went up, but so did everything else GA.
 
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Steamflyer said:
In fat numbers, the price of everything in aviation, whether parts, maintenance, or aircraft price, has doubled in the last ten years. It's one measure of the true rate of inflation, since a substantial if not almost all of the GA ecosystem is US made and sourced. That's the real issue. Agree there was a surge of training, so trainers went up, but so did everything else GA.
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Maybe so, but the value of my plane remained flat for about 9 years, and then has doubled in the last three years.
 
flyingcheesehead said:
Maybe so, but the value of my plane remained flat for about 9 years, and then has doubled in the last three years.
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Yes, the doubling is lumpy - some things in dribs and drabs (spark plugs, filters, etc.), others in big jumps (certain planes, crankshafts, etc.). But the ten year doubling hasn't seemed very far off.
 
Subsonicflight said:
"Restart" T182T's are fuel injected and turbocharged.
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Two things can be true at the same time - T182 is in fact a carbureted O-540 with an STC turbo installed at the factory (and a waste gate coupled to the throttle); the T182T is a restart TIO-540 turbo'd and injected from the get-go. And the 182T is the NA version of the latter. Move the "T" change the aircraft. The T182 is the rarest of the lot with its fixed gear; the TR182 is more common in that line, but adds in of course the electro-hydraulic retract system.
 
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