Cellphone calls on planes? Don't ask the feds

The other big difference I see is that the airport is public property, an airplane is private property.

I'm willing to bet that ruling was a result of a peaceful demonstration on public propery, which is clearly protected speech.

Freedom of speech is about protecting the citizens' right to express ideas and opinions without fear of harassment. It's not about being free to chat with one's mother about what's for dinner on private property.

Jim beat me with his post and proved me correct. It was a peaceful demonstration on public property. Clearly protected speech and there are absolutely no parallels between this and cell phone use on a plane.
 
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timwinters said:
The other big difference I see is that the airport is public property, an airplane is private property.

I'm willing to bet that ruling was a result of a peaceful demonstration on public propery, which is clearly protected speech.

Freedom of speech is about protecting the citizens' right to express ideas and opinions without fear of harassment. It's not about being free to chat with one's mother about what's for dinner on private property.
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Government may regulate speech on private property that it may not regulate if it occurs on public property? Fascinating. Not sure from whence that remarkable claim springs.

I don't think we hold any assumptions about reality in common at all, and at this point I expect I would simply be repeating myself to no avail.
 
Jim Logajan said:
Do you see any qualifiers in the First and Fourteenth Amendments that allows laws against "disruptive" speech? I see none - the concept is a post hoc interpretation of those amendments by the courts. They have invented exclusions that aren't there with (one hopes) great reluctance to balance other rights.
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If you disagree with that court's opinion, why did you quote it?

http://legaltimes.typepad.com/blt/2...ers-claim-of-first-amendment-retaliation.html
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Thanks. I note that the lawsuit has to go back to trial to be finally decided.
 
Geico266 said:
Texting only, NO voice calls.
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timwinters said:
I'm going to chat loudly on my phone the next time I go to a movie just to see how long that lasts before my happy ass is escorted to the door.

I'll record it for you all and post it here.

A free speech issue?

oooooooookay...
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Better yet, be sure to yell "Fire!" into the phone when you do. :devil:
 
Palmpilot said:
If you disagree with that court's opinion, why did you quote it?
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Post 80 was just my observations about the discrepancy between the First Amendment plain meaning and the court's historical interpretations - not meant to show agreement or disagreement.

I posted that quote because chatting on a cell phone is typically "peaceful nondisruptive speech" to anyone of normal mental stability. It seems to show the courts already agree such speech is protected from regulation. Chatting on a cell phone would be disruptive to Human/Vulcan hybrids in heat who have super sensitive hearing and prone to violence while rutting. I had no idea there were so many flying by commercial airline.
 
Jim Logajan said:
I posted that quote because chatting on a cell phone is typically "peaceful nondisruptive speech" to anyone of normal mental stability. It seems to show the courts already agree such speech is protected from regulation. Chatting on a cell phone would be disruptive to Human/Vulcan hybrids in heat who have super sensitive hearing and prone to violence while rutting. I had no idea there were so many flying by commercial airline.
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However, a large majority wants it banned.

American voters are opting for quiet in the sky, opposing 59 - 30 percent the use of cell phones on airlines, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today. Support for the mute button is strong among all groups, even voters 18 to 29 years old, who oppose phones on planes 52 - 39 percent.
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http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institute...titute/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=1988
 
Jim Logajan said:
Then the airlines will implement such bans if their customers prefer that. The airlines can adjust and fine tune their rules as technology and sentiment change a lot faster than the lumbering feds ever could.
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That may be true, but as of now talking on cellphones is banned and the Feds would need to reverse that.
 
Everskyward said:
That may be true, but as of now talking on cellphones is banned and the Feds would need to reverse that.
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In addition, according to the FCC proposal to allow it, equipment would need to be installed on airliners to enable service.

"If adopted, the new rules could give airlines the ability to install an Airborne Access System that would provide the connection between passenger's wireless devices and commercial wireless networks, much like Wi-Fi service is provided today aboard aircraft to provide connections to the Internet and safely manage connections."​

http://www.fcc.gov/guides/wireless-devices-airplanes
 
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