Cat needs a kidney; Now I'm the client

House is TOO damn quiet... I visited the local pound and the adoption center today.........

I think / know Cleo will have a GREAT home.. Altho her name will change to Cleco to fit into the aviation theme of my lifestyle.....:yes::yes:...:).

http://pawsofjh.org/resources/pet-finder/?petid=31182240

Cleco looks like a winner Ben. As soon as Leslie and I can make it to Jackson Hole you get a free exam from a Board Certified Feline Specialist! (Hint: it's not me)
 
Cleco looks like a winner Ben. As soon as Leslie and I can make it to Jackson Hole you get a free exam from a Board Certified Feline Specialist! (Hint: it's not me)

Pick me up on the way... Can I get an exam too? Vet hasn't looked me over in awhile, and I am a Leo...:rolleyes::rofl:
 
House is TOO damn quiet... I visited the local pound and the adoption center today.........

I think / know Cleo will have a GREAT home.. Altho her name will change to Cleco to fit into the aviation theme of my lifestyle.....:yes::yes:...:).

http://pawsofjh.org/resources/pet-finder/?petid=31182240

She didn't come home with you today? Are they running a background check on you to see if you will be a good owner? :goofy:
 
She didn't come home with you today? Are they running a background check on you to see if you will be a good owner? :goofy:

Actually... In the past, the ex did all the adopting so I had no idea of the procedures.... They did confirm I am who I am.. I did take her home today,,, In fact she is sitting in my lap as I type this....

As it was told to me today by the nice gals at the adoption center... They check every one since some low life scum bags actually get animals to use for "fight dogs and cats" and they end up getting killed /eaten to train fighting dogs..... *ucking sick if you ask me , but some people are just beyond belief........

Ben is a happy person again.. The older I get , the harder it is to lose a pet and kitters had me crying on and off since last Tuesday...:sad::sad::sad:
 
Bag of IV fluids - $10, Two weeks later -$15, same vet
 
Yeah, I'm gonna be saddened when our shop kitty passes. I used to go to work early and chat with the boss. All that time she (the cat) would sit on my lap and purr.
 
Bag of IV fluids - $10, Two weeks later -$15, same vet
Abbott recently tripled the price of bagged fluids. If your vet only marked it up 50% you should thank him.
 
Pick me up on the way... Can I get an exam too? Vet hasn't looked me over in awhile, and I am a Leo...:rolleyes::rofl:

We'd be happy to take you along, but be careful what you ask for. Do you know what the first thing a feline specialist does to an intact male is?
Leslie is a Leo too. It may be tough for me to put up with two of you. :D
 
We'd be happy to take you along, but be careful what you ask for. Do you know what the first thing a feline specialist does to an intact male is?
Leslie is a Leo too. It may be tough for me to put up with two of you. :D

Not sure, but does does it involve stiletto heels?:lol:
 
Whatever the market can bear... Free enterprise and all...... Unless the yellow stuff in god awful expensive. it is hard to guess what vets pharma costs are..

As a commercial contractor with ALOT of fixed costs I can say I would be out of business tomorrow if I charged 1200.00 an hour.....

This practice has 5 vets with usually 3 working 10 hour shifts.... 36 grand a day in gross income is a nice operation IMHO.... That's 13+ milllion a year..:):):):redface:...

Strong trend towards corporate ownership of veterinary practices; typically, they buy a good practice (big money opportunity for the principal(s)), and pump it up big time - lots of (typically new, young and hungry) DVMs, lots and lots of "strongly encouraged" tests, extreme emphasis on revenue increase as goal of the business, rather than patient care as goal of the professional practice. Lots of venture capital money in this.

The Vet practice with whom we had traded (and my parents before as well): brought my critters in for routine annual exam, many (an amazing quantum) tests strongly pushed, forecasts of doom if I did not. Declined all, still got rung for an amount which was probably tripe what I paid the year before (and the practice had by no means been struggling). Only when I saw the receipt that I saw the name had changed - it was no longer "Central Expressway Animal Hospital, " it was "VCA Central Expressway Animal Hospital, a Veterinary Corporation of America Facility."

So I left and started using Doctor Larry, great guy, neighborhood vet. Then (be amazed) some years later, exact same thing happened - went in, and there were suddenly four (yes, four!) veterinarians practicing in the office which had been built for two and run by one; they bragged about all their new equipment and such, and advised a $1,500.00 test sequence (with overnight boarding at a vastly-inflated rate) for a minor issue. Practice had been bought by another VC outfit, and (from the web site) every director (except one) was strictly VC, nothing related to veterinary medicine (they all had a dog in their publicity shot, of course). About a year later, we got a letter from the corporate owner telling us that Dr. Larry had left, and pretty much calling him a turd. Very unprofessional, and if I had still been a client, I would have left then.

I do not approve of corporate ownership of professional practices of any kind; I believe I am in the minority in this.

House is TOO damn quiet... I visited the local pound and the adoption center today.........

I think / know Cleo will have a GREAT home.. Altho her name will change to Cleco to fit into the aviation theme of my lifestyle.....:yes::yes:...:).

http://pawsofjh.org/resources/pet-finder/?petid=31182240

Cleco is no longer shown on the adoption site (of course), so PICTURES! NOW!

Please ;-)
 
Strong trend towards corporate ownership of veterinary practices; typically, they buy a good practice (big money opportunity for the principal(s)), and pump it up big time - lots of (typically new, young and hungry) DVMs, lots and lots of "strongly encouraged" tests, extreme emphasis on revenue increase as goal of the business, rather than patient care as goal of the professional practice. Lots of venture capital money in this.

The Vet practice with whom we had traded (and my parents before as well): brought my critters in for routine annual exam, many (an amazing quantum) tests strongly pushed, forecasts of doom if I did not. Declined all, still got rung for an amount which was probably tripe what I paid the year before (and the practice had by no means been struggling). Only when I saw the receipt that I saw the name had changed - it was no longer "Central Expressway Animal Hospital, " it was "VCA Central Expressway Animal Hospital, a Veterinary Corporation of America Facility."

So I left and started using Doctor Larry, great guy, neighborhood vet. Then (be amazed) some years later, exact same thing happened - went in, and there were suddenly four (yes, four!) veterinarians practicing in the office which had been built for two and run by one; they bragged about all their new equipment and such, and advised a $1,500.00 test sequence (with overnight boarding at a vastly-inflated rate) for a minor issue. Practice had been bought by another VC outfit, and (from the web site) every director (except one) was strictly VC, nothing related to veterinary medicine (they all had a dog in their publicity shot, of course). About a year later, we got a letter from the corporate owner telling us that Dr. Larry had left, and pretty much calling him a turd. Very unprofessional, and if I had still been a client, I would have left then.

I do not approve of corporate ownership of professional practices of any kind; I believe I am in the minority in this.



Cleco is no longer shown on the adoption site (of course), so PICTURES! NOW!

Please ;-)
You are in the same minority that most of us private practice owners are in.
 
Spike I don't think you are in the minority at all.

When I was growing up my grandfathers payment threshold for any animal was, "If it cost more than a bullet…", you can guess the rest. I would go to the local vet and beg for help when anyone got sick. He understood my predicament and gave me some free drugs, treatment advise, etc. He even gave me the supplies to give one of our dogs an antibiotics shot after he was wounded by a black bear. I would try and help him out however I could in exchange. It was hard to be an animal lover in that house.

Anyway, I don't think for a minute that would happen in corporate veterinary. In fact I am concerned that a lot of animals will be put down because of the expense.
 
So why do so many people think that corporate practices like Banfield are cheaper?

Spike I don't think you are in the minority at all.

When I was growing up my grandfathers payment threshold for any animal was, "If it cost more than a bullet…", you can guess the rest. I would go to the local vet and beg for help when anyone got sick. He understood my predicament and gave me some free drugs, treatment advise, etc. He even gave me the supplies to give one of our dogs an antibiotics shot after he was wounded by a black bear. I would try and help him out however I could in exchange. It was hard to be an animal lover in that house.

Anyway, I don't think for a minute that would happen in corporate veterinary. In fact I am concerned that a lot of animals will be put down because of the expense.
 
It's always sad to lose a pet. If The Kitty were to go today, I would miss him a lot. Unfortunately it's a when, not an if. Just like anything else I guess. But what is the value here? How much am I willing to pay to keep him going? I don't know the answer to that. I will say it's in the hundreds, but it's not in the thousands.

I'm a realist when it comes to my pets. I got a Great Dane in 2001 for my wife... she wanted a little dog, I hate little dogs so I got her a little Great Dane that was a few months old.

When she (The dog) was about 6 months old she got sick. Her intestines were telescoped on each other and was losing weight and very lethargic. Since she really hadn't had a chance to live we went with the surgery which if I remember right was about $2500. She made a full recovery and had no further issues.

Fast forward to about 2011 (Yes she was almost 10), she got very sick again. At this point she lived a full and happy dog life so I knew going in that I wasn't going to get a bunch of surgery or put her on doggy life support just to keep her going. I expressed this to the vet he wanted to try just a few things like get fluids in her and monitor her a few days. I was good with that and it cost maybe $1000 and well... she survived.

No other issues until one night late 2012. Doing my typical let her out at night bit she wouldn't come in. She was hanging out in the far corner of the yard. I got her to come in and could tell she was a bit out of it. Watched her for about an hour and noticed her abdomen was starting to swell, she was drooling and just didn't seem right. Her body was shutting down and I knew to take her to the Vet would include either a surgery or putting her down. She was almost 12 which is pretty unheard of so I decided as long as she wasn't suffering I would let nature take it's course. She died within 6 hours, most of which was just laying around.

So to me it's not a money factor, it's about quality of life.
 
I'm good with everything you say, but why do you think she wasn't suffering in those last 6 hours?


I'm a realist when it comes to my pets. I got a Great Dane in 2001 for my wife... she wanted a little dog, I hate little dogs so I got her a little Great Dane that was a few months old.

When she (The dog) was about 6 months old she got sick. Her intestines were telescoped on each other and was losing weight and very lethargic. Since she really hadn't had a chance to live we went with the surgery which if I remember right was about $2500. She made a full recovery and had no further issues.

Fast forward to about 2011 (Yes she was almost 10), she got very sick again. At this point she lived a full and happy dog life so I knew going in that I wasn't going to get a bunch of surgery or put her on doggy life support just to keep her going. I expressed this to the vet he wanted to try just a few things like get fluids in her and monitor her a few days. I was good with that and it cost maybe $1000 and well... she survived.

No other issues until one night late 2012. Doing my typical let her out at night bit she wouldn't come in. She was hanging out in the far corner of the yard. I got her to come in and could tell she was a bit out of it. Watched her for about an hour and noticed her abdomen was starting to swell, she was drooling and just didn't seem right. Her body was shutting down and I knew to take her to the Vet would include either a surgery or putting her down. She was almost 12 which is pretty unheard of so I decided as long as she wasn't suffering I would let nature take it's course. She died within 6 hours, most of which was just laying around.

So to me it's not a money factor, it's about quality of life.
 
So why do so many people think that corporate practices like Banfield are cheaper?

$10 vacinations. Otherwise known as a "loss leader" in retail terms. Corporations and VC money is there to do one thing, make more. Pets are a big business with limited liability.
 
Strong trend towards corporate ownership of veterinary practices; typically, they buy a good practice (big money opportunity for the principal(s)), and pump it up big time - lots of (typically new, young and hungry) DVMs, lots and lots of "strongly encouraged" tests, extreme emphasis on revenue increase as goal of the business, rather than patient care as goal of the professional practice. Lots of venture capital money in this.

The Vet practice with whom we had traded (and my parents before as well): brought my critters in for routine annual exam, many (an amazing quantum) tests strongly pushed, forecasts of doom if I did not. Declined all, still got rung for an amount which was probably tripe what I paid the year before (and the practice had by no means been struggling). Only when I saw the receipt that I saw the name had changed - it was no longer "Central Expressway Animal Hospital, " it was "VCA Central Expressway Animal Hospital, a Veterinary Corporation of America Facility."

So I left and started using Doctor Larry, great guy, neighborhood vet. Then (be amazed) some years later, exact same thing happened - went in, and there were suddenly four (yes, four!) veterinarians practicing in the office which had been built for two and run by one; they bragged about all their new equipment and such, and advised a $1,500.00 test sequence (with overnight boarding at a vastly-inflated rate) for a minor issue. Practice had been bought by another VC outfit, and (from the web site) every director (except one) was strictly VC, nothing related to veterinary medicine (they all had a dog in their publicity shot, of course). About a year later, we got a letter from the corporate owner telling us that Dr. Larry had left, and pretty much calling him a turd. Very unprofessional, and if I had still been a client, I would have left then.....



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Funny you should post this.. Up until this morning I assumed it was still a owner /operator DMV practice.. As I was calling around to other local vets to pick which one to switch to, I became aware that SCAH I have been going to for 20+ years was indeed bought out by some conglomerate...

The entire interaction for the last month is becoming crystal clear now.. First visit was no doubt a "high pressure" sales tactic laced with guilt trips.. I knew kitters was failing and at 18 years old, it is expected.. 170 for a basic office visit had my surprised... Then the ( you need a complete blood work up or she will die) second 300 dollar visit was them trying to set the hook.... I find it excessive but I wanted to be damn sure what the status of kitters was... Results... Kidney failure... I knew it was just a matter of time and I watched her close to make sure she was not suffering.. After 3 days late last week I took her in on Fri so she could go to sleep.... They talked me into the IV and shots just to jump start her for 12 hours and that cost me 180 bucks.... I should have just stuck to my guns and put her down then... So, on Sunday morning I was DAMN sure it was time so I made an appointment and took her in......

In hindsite and now that I know the clinic is now a corp driven money pit, several things I didn't put two and two together then , make perfect sense now..


I was put in a room and told to hold kitters...

The gal comes in and gives her a sedative shot and says "this is to ease her pain" and left the room.... I know kitters and she was NOT in pain...
Gal comes back a couple of minutes later with the propofal and the yellow stuff...

She starts into a ( don't put her down, she can be saved by intense therapy rant).....

I stuck to my guns and said thanks for the advise, BUT,kitters needs to go to sleep now....

So the gal gives the propafal injection and once again says " are sure you want to go through with this, we can save her" guilt trip speech "

I was firm but polite " NO Ma'am.... Put her to sleep.......

At that point the gals attitude changed from compassion to slightly angry and the yellow stuff went in... Kitters lasted maybe 20 seconds and died...:sad:

I rolled her up in my towel, put her back in my cage and left......

Looking back, there is NO doubt it was a pressure sales tactic to extract as much money from me using kitters as a bargaining chip... Disgusting business practice.... I will NEVER set foot in there again....

How those people sleep at night is beyond me.....:dunno:
 
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Ben, I am so sorry. I had to put my siamese down a few years back due to renal failure.. I still miss that cat
 
I'm good with everything you say, but why do you think she wasn't suffering in those last 6 hours?

Not sure if you asking that because you're in doubt or because you actually want to know... assuming the later I'll answer.

Close to 12 years of her being alive I was fairly in tuned to her behavior, habits and knew what she wanted without having to guess. I had seen her hurt, depressed, anxious, excited, angry, jealous, ect. This dog was around me at least 15 hours a day, every day for 11+ years. I knew from the moment I saw her in the corner of the yard that she wanted to be left alone to die. It was behavior that I had not seen, if she was in pain she would of wanted to be around me.

In fact she went out of her way going to different places in the house to be by herself and I would check on her periodically. The last place she went was into the media room on the couch, after checking on her I fully expected to wake up in the AM with her up there dead. However around 4 am she got off the couch, walked around a bit and came down the stairs into my room and collapsed on my bedroom floor. I got up, talked to her and sat next to her until she started convulsing a few times and that was it.

Should mention I have video cameras around the house which is why I know the order of events. The time she was on the couch she was sleeping like usual, same positions and mannerisms, another indication that she wasn't in pain.
 
Not sure if you asking that because you're in doubt or because you actually want to know... assuming the later I'll answer.

Close to 12 years of her being alive I was fairly in tuned to her behavior, habits and knew what she wanted without having to guess. I had seen her hurt, depressed, anxious, excited, angry, jealous, ect. This dog was around me at least 15 hours a day, every day for 11+ years. I knew from the moment I saw her in the corner of the yard that she wanted to be left alone to die. It was behavior that I had not seen, if she was in pain she would of wanted to be around me.

In fact she went out of her way going to different places in the house to be by herself and I would check on her periodically. The last place she went was into the media room on the couch, after checking on her I fully expected to wake up in the AM with her up there dead. However around 4 am she got off the couch, walked around a bit and came down the stairs into my room and collapsed on my bedroom floor. I got up, talked to her and sat next to her until she started convulsing a few times and that was it.

Should mention I have video cameras around the house which is why I know the order of events. The time she was on the couch she was sleeping like usual, same positions and mannerisms, another indication that she wasn't in pain.
I wanted to know how you made the determination. Cats, more so than dogs, but all animals in general hide their pain quite well because in the wild a sick or injured animal is easy prey. You described the best way for an owner to discern pain in your pet; from observing behavior compared to their normal self.
 
I wanted to know how you made the determination. Cats, more so than dogs, but all animals in general hide their pain quite well because in the wild a sick or injured animal is easy prey. You described the best way for an owner to discern pain in your pet; from observing behavior compared to their normal self.


We have learned that English labs are one of the most stoic dog breeds, so when you notice they are in pain, they are in real pain.

Our oldest, Guinness, had elbow surgery at about a year. He's now 4, and occasionally on a walk we will notice his head bobbing ever so slightly, which is the sign of a limp. That means we need to end the walk and let him relax, even though that's the last thing he wants to do.
 
So why do so many people think that corporate practices like Banfield are cheaper?

Effective marketing? Don't know, but in a purely service-driven business, it is folly to believe that having a big organization "upstairs" can somehow lower costs at the local level. Nuts.
 
Effective marketing? Don't know, but in a purely service-driven business, it is folly to believe that having a big organization "upstairs" can somehow lower costs at the local level. Nuts.

It does reduce operating cost if:
- you can spread the cost of software support across many providers
- have large purchase contracts on med
- self-insure rather than purchase insurance for liability, health, workmans-comp
..
..

There are some economies of scale in a service business, the fallacy is to think that the customer sees this in lower prices. If there is any lower cost in the corporate model, they will still take market price and kick back the difference to their shareholders.
 
It does reduce operating cost if:
- you can spread the cost of software support across many providers
- have large purchase contracts on med
- self-insure rather than purchase insurance for liability, health, workmans-comp
..
..

There are some economies of scale in a service business, the fallacy is to think that the customer sees this in lower prices. If there is any lower cost in the corporate model, they will still take market price and kick back the difference to their shareholders.

Where this will bite them in the ass is when people quit using corporate vets and take all their business to mom and pop operations.... IMHO...

That is what I will do for the rest of my life.... Screw me once, shame on you.... Screw me twice, shame on me......:rolleyes:
 
If Obamacare covered your cat it would straight up be time to over through the govt. that's when you know the last ounce of reason has left the whitehouse.
 
If Obamacare covered your cat it would straight up be time to over through the govt. that's when you know the last ounce of reason has left the whitehouse.

It already does.....


Just look at the name..

PPACA = Puppies , Parrots, Affordable, Cat, Act.....:D:D:D....:hairraise:
 
Where this will bite them in the ass is when people quit using corporate vets and take all their business to mom and pop operations.... IMHO...

That is what I will do for the rest of my life.... Screw me once, shame on you.... Screw me twice, shame on me......:rolleyes:

You still gotta be careful. While I have more respect for Vets than most, they are still people living on Bell Curve. There are good ones and not so good ones. As the owner of a private practice, I would love to tell people that all corporate practices are bad and all private practices are great, but the truth is that just isn't so.

You can't really judge a vet by their prices or the diagnostics they offer. You have to find a vet that you personally trust and that shares your values. Remember, vets spend a lot of time and money learning to save animals. Putting them to sleep is always a last option. But their recommendation MUST be in the best interest of the pet, not their own bottom line and not the owners economic ability or willingness to pay.

We have turned away people that wanted their healthy (or savable) pet put to sleep for invalid reasons. (Yes, at times there are valid reasons but your leather couch or your new apartment's rules isn't one of them).
 
You still gotta be careful. While I have more respect for Vets than most, they are still people living on Bell Curve. There are good ones and not so good ones. As the owner of a private practice, I would love to tell people that all corporate practices are bad and all private practices are great, but the truth is that just isn't so.

You can't really judge a vet by their prices or the diagnostics they offer. You have to find a vet that you personally trust and that shares your values. Remember, vets spend a lot of time and money learning to save animals. Putting them to sleep is always a last option. But their recommendation MUST be in the best interest of the pet, not their own bottom line and not the owners economic ability or willingness to pay.

We have turned away people that wanted their healthy (or savable) pet put to sleep for invalid reasons. (Yes, at times there are valid reasons but your leather couch or your new apartment's rules isn't one of them).


You sir, are an outstanding human being...:yes::yes::yes::)
 
You can't really judge a vet by their prices or the diagnostics they offer. You have to find a vet that you personally trust and that shares your values. Remember, vets spend a lot of time and money learning to save animals. Putting them to sleep is always a last option. But their recommendation MUST be in the best interest of the pet, not their own bottom line and not the owners economic ability or willingness to pay.

A pet is a 'thing' and the owners ability and willingness to pay for its maintenance are entirely valid reasons to put down a sick animal rather than continuing to spend money on its care.

The same argument doesn't apply to grandma.
 
A pet is a 'thing' and the owners ability and willingness to pay for its maintenance are entirely valid reasons to put down a sick animal rather than continuing to spend money on its care.

The same argument doesn't apply to grandma.


Nope... You just push her off a cliff in a wheelchair..... easy pleasy..:D
 
A pet is a 'thing' and the owners ability and willingness to pay for its maintenance are entirely valid reasons to put down a sick animal rather than continuing to spend money on its care.

The same argument doesn't apply to grandma.
What I meant there is that the vet is bound to give the best advice regarding the pet. But it is always up to the owner to make the final decision. If that decision is based on finances it is the owners decision. Not the vet's. We put many cats to sleep because the owner can't or chooses not to pay. We don't like it but it is reality. We understand that treatment can be expensive, but we can't make that decision for the owner.
 
A pet is a 'thing' and the owners ability and willingness to pay for its maintenance are entirely valid reasons to put down a sick animal rather than continuing to spend money on its care.

The same argument doesn't apply to grandma.

But I am afraid those days are coming when some large entity removed from the personal relationship has the financial incentive to do so. :-(


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What I meant there is that the vet is bound to give the best advice regarding the pet. But it is always up to the owner to make the final decision. If that decision is based on finances it is the owners decision. Not the vet's. We put many cats to sleep because the owner can't or chooses not to pay. We don't like it but it is reality. We understand that treatment can be expensive, but we can't make that decision for the owner.

I may have misunderstood you.
 
Taking my cat Banjo to the ER vet to be put down was a wrenching experience that non-cat lovers can't understand.

I'm sorry about the loss of Moose and Kitters.
 
Strong trend towards corporate ownership of veterinary practices; typically, they buy a good practice (big money opportunity for the principal(s)), and pump it up big time - lots of (typically new, young and hungry) DVMs, lots and lots of "strongly encouraged" tests, extreme emphasis on revenue increase as goal of the business, rather than patient care as goal of the professional practice. Lots of venture capital money in this.

The Vet practice with whom we had traded (and my parents before as well): brought my critters in for routine annual exam, many (an amazing quantum) tests strongly pushed, forecasts of doom if I did not. Declined all, still got rung for an amount which was probably tripe what I paid the year before (and the practice had by no means been struggling). Only when I saw the receipt that I saw the name had changed - it was no longer "Central Expressway Animal Hospital, " it was "VCA Central Expressway Animal Hospital, a Veterinary Corporation of America Facility."

So I left and started using Doctor Larry, great guy, neighborhood vet. Then (be amazed) some years later, exact same thing happened - went in, and there were suddenly four (yes, four!) veterinarians practicing in the office which had been built for two and run by one; they bragged about all their new equipment and such, and advised a $1,500.00 test sequence (with overnight boarding at a vastly-inflated rate) for a minor issue. Practice had been bought by another VC outfit, and (from the web site) every director (except one) was strictly VC, nothing related to veterinary medicine (they all had a dog in their publicity shot, of course). About a year later, we got a letter from the corporate owner telling us that Dr. Larry had left, and pretty much calling him a turd. Very unprofessional, and if I had still been a client, I would have left then.

I do not approve of corporate ownership of professional practices of any kind; I believe I am in the minority in this.



Cleco is no longer shown on the adoption site (of course), so PICTURES! NOW!

Please ;-)


I don't think you are in a minority, however, this is how EVERYTHING in America is. Everything is about profit, not people, not product, profit.
 
I consider ourselves very lucky. We've had two cats that have lived to 17+ years. One was a rescue; the other from a friend. When we moved to the suburbs, we found a vet who actually makes house calls! This was a godsend, because they both hated to get in those cages and make the trip to the vet. Both the husband and wife are vets, but she's the one who had the business. They also worked for a clinic. I always felt that the cats were well cared for.
 
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