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What's the deal with so many ads on Controller having "Call for City" in place of their location? Don't these numb nuts realize that 5 seconds of searching with the plainly visible N number gets not only the city but the name and street address?
 
More than likely just to get you on the phone so the salesperson can start pitching.

-Rich
 
More than likely just to get you on the phone so the salesperson can start pitching.

-Rich
Registration address in not necessarily where the aircraft is located.
 
They want to be there when you check it out. The airplane is probably at a location not on the registration.
 
What's the deal with so many ads on Controller having "Call for City" in place of their location? Don't these numb nuts realize that 5 seconds of searching with the plainly visible N number gets not only the city but the name and street address?

That's the address the registration was sent to, not of the airplane. Some people actually use their planes to commute with so it may be in one city for a couple of weeks, then another.
 
Brokers/dealers move planes as well. Often they are in a completely different state.
 
Not to hijack the thread but on a similar note...

Many advertisers (businesses) in Trade-A-Plane and other publications don't give their physical location. That wears me out. If I'm looking for an engine or prop shop it's nice to know if they're located in the next state or 2,000 miles away.

No location listed? I'm definitely not calling or googling to find out.
 
This reminds me of what all of the car dealers are doing in Corpus Christi (the nearest big city to our locale). To prevent people from driving up and down the rows to check their inventory, they are parking cars at the ends of the rows, blocking them.

I suppose the idea is to force us to get out of the car and walk, putting us at the mercy of the ever-present salesmen. In our case, however, it merely caused us to drive home and look up the car we want on-line. Dumb.
 
This reminds me of what all of the car dealers are doing in Corpus Christi (the nearest big city to our locale). To prevent people from driving up and down the rows to check their inventory, they are parking cars at the ends of the rows, blocking them.

I suppose the idea is to force us to get out of the car and walk, putting us at the mercy of the ever-present salesmen. In our case, however, it merely caused us to drive home and look up the car we want on-line. Dumb.

There is a Toyota dealer here that has no self parking - you have to use their valets (no charge, of course). Stupid.
 
There is a Toyota dealer here that has no self parking - you have to use their valets (no charge, of course). Stupid.

That is as much out of preservation of stock and not having idiots blocking the lot than making you subject to a salesman. People do damage on car lots all the time.
 
There is a Toyota dealer here that has no self parking - you have to use their valets (no charge, of course). Stupid.

There used to be one like that in Springfield MO back in the '80s (Reliable Toyota). And they wouldn't bring your car back when you asked then to if they were in the middle of "pressure selling" you. A few fights broke out, a few car salesmen with broken noses. A few times the cops were called.

They finally quit that practice.

I remember being in there one day haggling with a salesman as I was trying to buy a car. We went back and forth for at least thirty minutes and, the entire time, I never was told the price of the car.

"How much is the car?"

"Can you afford $300/mo?"

"How much is the car?"

"Can you afford $293/mo?"

"How much is the car?"

"Can you afford $287.50/mo?"

etc., etc., etc.

They were the worst of the worst back then. They're still in business but I think they're much more above board these days.
 
Buying a car is much easier, since the advent of the internet. We aren't at a disadvantage against the salesmen anymore.
 
Buying a car is much easier, since the advent of the internet. We aren't at a disadvantage against the salesmen anymore.

You guys sound too nice. It's not rude to walk in, firmly explain to the salesman that you would like to browse the inventory alone, and then carry on. He can't force you to listen to his pitch, and if he tries you can just leave.
 
You guys sound too nice. It's not rude to walk in, firmly explain to the salesman that you would like to browse the inventory alone, and then carry on. He can't force you to listen to his pitch, and if he tries you can just leave.

I've done that, too, but it is SO much easier to simply type your parameters into Google, and view what comes up. Anything close by merits a look.
 
"Just looking" typically buys me my privacy on a car lot. I've not yet seen a dealer so stupid as to try to hold a car hostage, but I believe they exist lol. I suspect in these days of concealed carry they are getting rather rare though. I would just leave people be until they stood by a car long enough, then I would go out and bring them the keys and maybe to another couple.
 
Buying a car is much easier, since the advent of the internet. We aren't at a disadvantage against the salesmen anymore.

Very true. I just bought momma a new car. The process was:

1. Drive the models that she thought she was interested in.
2. Let her decide what she likes.
3. Research options, invoice prices, hold back, etc. on the internet
4. Return to a dealer for a second in-person look at the options and to...
5. Drive her final choice a second time to confirm she really likes it.
6. Send the two dealers that we're working an email with the details of what we want and an offer which was invoice +$500. (There was $500 hold-back on this car so their profit would be $1,000 which I thought fair).
7. One countered at $1,350 higher, the other $1,900 higher.
8. I didn't move.
9. Before the end of the day the one that was initially closest to my offer accepted my original offer.

All was done by email. No salesman pressure at all when they're on the other end of a keyboard.

10 they dealer traded for the car, installed the options we wanted that it didn't have and we picked it up 3 days later.

Relatively painless.

The only hard sell I got was from their "financial adviser" on the day we picked up the car when he was trying to convince me to buy the extended warranty. But I had already pinged the peanut gallery here and done research elsewhere and just kept telling him "no...it doesn't matter how many times you repeat yourself...it'll still be no." So he finally quit repeating himself.
 
If they had to dealer trade for the car, they received no hold back, that only goes to the dealer the factory delivers to.
 
If they had to dealer trade for the car, they received no hold back, that only goes to the dealer the factory delivers to.

Interesting, they didn't mention this during the negotiation process and I even told them exactly how I derived the offer $$$.
 
Interesting, they didn't mention this during the negotiation process and I even told them exactly how I derived the offer $$$.

They didn't care, quite likely the info you had was incorrect, there was a factory-dealer incentive you didn't know about, the back end F&I money, or some other factor that would have them make a $500 deal like needing to get rid of some inventory.
 
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