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RJM62

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So I finally found and installed a relatively squirrel-resistant bird feeder, and now I have all sorts of little birds flying over to my place for dinner. I only recognize one of the bird species, that being the sparrows. There are also birds about that size that are blue and white, smaller birds that are black and white, and little ones that are black and yellow and who look a bit like Ringo Starr. I'll take some pictures when I have a chance.

The birds eat pretty much non-stop, in small servings. That makes sense, of course: They can't store a lot of energy as fat or else they'll be too heavy to fly (I can kind of relate to that, actually), so they have to eat pretty much constantly. That need also affords an opportunity for a bit of insight into their learning habits.

The first question was how do they find the feeder in the first place. Is it just chance? No, I learned. The answer came from a little kid in the store where I bought the feeder. While my lady friend and I were discussing the question of how the birds find the feeder, the little kid said, "It's 'cause a lot of other people have that same feeder, so the birds already know what a feeder looks like." Smart kid.

I've noticed a few other things about the birds. One is that the sparrows seem to like feeding on the ground, as do some larger birds who can't comfortably feed while sitting on the perches. So the sparrows and the larger birds wait until the Ringo Starr birds shake some seed to the ground for them.

It's also interesting that their attitude toward me has changed very quickly. When I first hung the feeder, the birds kind of hung out in the bushes until I was out of sight. If I even walked past a window, one of the birds would alert, and the rest would fly away.

Within a day, they got used to my comings and goings, and no longer flew away when I walked by. But if I walked close to the feeder, they would fly away.

But since the first time that I refilled the feeder, they fly toward me when I approach the feeder. They've figured out that I'm the source of the seeds, I guess. I also have learned to recognize their alert call, and they no longer respond to alerts from other nearby areas when I'm outside; so possibly they also consider me a protector.

That would make some kind of sense, actually. A predator who's friendly toward a prey animal would make a great protector by keeping the other predators away. Or possibly, if there is such a "protected" feeling on their parts, the association is with the area, rather than the friendly predator himself.

Sooo... The learning process went from fear of me (their native response to humans, I would think), to relative indifference, to attraction once they figured out that I was the one filling the feeder, to (possibly) a feeling of safety when I was there. This all happened in a few days.

All of this is interesting to me because I never really thought that the common, littler, seed-eating birds had a whole lot of cognitive ability. Raptors and migratory birds, sure. But not sparrows and the little Ringo Starr-looking birds. I figured their brains were pretty much dedicated to the mechanics of flight, rather than assessing people. Clearly, I was wrong about that.

-Rich
 
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There are few wild birds that are blue. If they have a crest on their heads they are bluejays, but they are the size of a robin. If they are slightly bigger than the sparrows then they are likely blue birds. However, blue birds are not fans of bird feeders.

English sparrows are vermin. They are ferral birds from Europe that have taken over native birds nesting areas, along with starlings. Most birders put out sparrow traps to kull their numbers. We call them targets around here. ;)

Post pictures and I can identify them.
 
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I'll try to get some pictures later today. I'm not a bird expert by any means. I can recognize sparrows, pigeons, starlings, cardinals, robins, geese, turkeys, and most raptors; but the rest of them, not so much.

-Rich
 
Well, another surprise... but I suppose it's understandable.

The birds, it seems, are terrified of the camera. They'll need time to figure out that it's not some cyclops-eyed predator, I guess, and I don't want to leave it out there right now because it's drizzling / snowing off and on.

I'll see if it clears up a bit later, and maybe just leave it out there on video mode.

-Rich
 
Blue birds are small. We attract them. The key is to have nesting boxes with small holes and no perch which the blue birds will love but the more pushy larger birds can't use and.

Blue birds do not eat SEED. They eat bugs and berries and the like. We put out meal worms for them which they love as do the Mockingbirds who can eat a prodigious amount. I had to put up a special blue bird feeder (essentially a house with 1 1/2" holes that the blue birds can enter but the mockingbirds can't) so I don't have to reload everyday.
 
Here's a few minutes of video... only sparrows and one other kind of bird today. The yellow ones aren't around at all. Could be the weather. It was only about 37 F outside when this was taken.

http://www.rjmstock.com/birds.php

-Rich
 
My neighbors feed the feral cats (there were 5 of the little monsters staring at us as we walked past last night). Not too many birds brave enough to show up anymore. Or alive enough.
 
ain't nuthin' squirrel proof about that set up = shortly - a squirrel will discover the pole - shimmy up - then jump over to the feeder and hang on for dear life while munching on the seed. The first time you see it you'll get angry.

That said, if you want Cardinals you need to get black oil sunflower seed - and add a flat perch to the bottom - they are perch feeders . . . birds make a god awful mess . . .
 
ain't nuthin' squirrel proof about that set up = shortly - a squirrel will discover the pole - shimmy up - then jump over to the feeder and hang on for dear life while munching on the seed. The first time you see it you'll get angry.

The cage on the feeder is spring suspended. The weight of the squirrel closes the feeding ports. It works.
 
The other one is the Yankee Flipper feeder from Droll Yankees (they sell them at Lowe's now). It has a 9V battery that spins the perch when the weight of a squirrel is on it. There's lots of youtube video on the squirrels getting flung although there is a video of a squirrel running in place on the perch while eating from the feeder.

I've have one of the closing style feeders and had a raccoon rip the top off to get to the seed.
 
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The other one is the Yankee Flipper feeder from Droll Yankees (they sell them at Lowe's now). It has a 9V battery that spins the perch when the weight of a squirrel is on it. There's lots of youtube video on the squirrels getting flung although there is a video of a squirrel running in place on the perch while eating from the feeder.

I've have one of the closing style feeders and had a raccoon rip the top off to get to the seed.

To see the most tenacious squirrel on the planet....
http://youtu.be/6PBya--psxI
 
We have two Cockatiels and a Senegal Parrot. For a time we also had a couple of Parakeets. We like to have them out of the cage now and then. My living room has a vaulted ceiling and ceiling fan that hangs on a 6' rod. The Parakeets took a liking to landing on the fan blades. I would reach over and quickly flip the switch on and off and that would get them off. That worked maybe three or four times. The next time I tried it they just sat there and went round and round and probably thought it was pretty cool.

 
... I figured their brains were pretty much dedicated to the mechanics of flight...

Clearly false - if they had to think about the mechanics of flight, their heads would asplode... :D
 
The cage on the feeder is spring suspended. The weight of the squirrel closes the feeding ports. It works.
You may find that even the most squirrel resistant feeder can be breached by those persistent rodents.

My wife went from, "they are cute, lets get a squirrel feeder" in her first bird feeding year to, "I want everyone of them dead" as they were even sucking sugar water from the beloved hummingbird feeders.

I just don't like hunting and killing things. But now when my spotter hollers, "there's another *#$!!^% squirrel", I creep around in my camo PJs with a scoped and silenced pellet rifle, managing the collective IQ of our little squirrel scurry.

"You learn to get to the bird feeder, you will be culled from the dray!" The best I can offer the doomed is a quick and clean death. :yes:
 
The other one is the Yankee Flipper feeder from Droll Yankees (they sell them at Lowe's now). It has a 9V battery that spins the perch when the weight of a squirrel is on it. There's lots of youtube video on the squirrels getting flung although there is a video of a squirrel running in place on the perch while eating from the feeder.

I've have one of the closing style feeders and had a raccoon rip the top off to get to the seed.

Around here the bears occasionally yank them down and smash them, or so I'm told by the neighbors. Short of climbing a tree to install a pulley to suspend the feeder higher than a bear can reach, I'm not sure there's much that can be done about that.

The weather is warmer today, but cloudy. If I see additional bird species, I'll set up the camera again. I'm a bit too busy to sit out there right now.

-Rich
 
You may find that even the most squirrel resistant feeder can be breached by those persistent rodents.

My wife went from, "they are cute, lets get a squirrel feeder" in her first bird feeding year to, "I want everyone of them dead" as they were even sucking sugar water from the beloved hummingbird feeders.

I just don't like hunting and killing things. But now when my spotter hollers, "there's another *#$!!^% squirrel", I creep around in my camo PJs with a scoped and silenced pellet rifle, managing the collective IQ of our little squirrel scurry.

"You learn to get to the bird feeder, you will be culled from the dray!" The best I can offer the doomed is a quick and clean death. :yes:

Now THAT'S funny! :rofl: :rofl:
 
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