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timwinters

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We found a nice little farm, have it under contract and will close on 10/23 (and yes, it has a 2000' long bottom field that's flat...hmm, wonder what I could do with that?). But their is no internet access available except for dial-up and no cell service. So...

1. How is satellite internet access these days? Anyone use it? Price? Other options?
2. Is there any kind of "receiver/repeater antenna" made for cell phones? Maybe something you put on a tower?

Thanks in advance for input!
 
We found a nice little farm, have it under contract and will close on 10/23 (and yes, it has a 2000' long bottom field that's flat...hmm, wonder what I could do with that?). But their is no internet access available except for dial-up and no cell service. So...

1. How is satellite internet access these days? Anyone use it? Price? Other options?
2. Is there any kind of "receiver/repeater antenna" made for cell phones? Maybe something you put on a tower?

Thanks in advance for input!
Satellite is expensive for the equipment and the monthly, and the latency is high. The motel I stay at in AR has it and it works fine for web surfing and email.

If you can get cell data service from any carrier, go that way with a datacard.

http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phones/pc-cards.jsp
http://www.nextel.com/en/software_downloads/mobile_broadband/index.shtml
 
We found a nice little farm, have it under contract and will close on 10/23 (and yes, it has a 2000' long bottom field that's flat...hmm, wonder what I could do with that?). But their is no internet access available except for dial-up and no cell service. So...

1. How is satellite internet access these days? Anyone use it? Price? Other options?
2. Is there any kind of "receiver/repeater antenna" made for cell phones? Maybe something you put on a tower?

Thanks in advance for input!

Tim, we have satellite here because that is our only option. It's better than dial-up, but not as good as anything else that we are aware of. We use Hughes and have had problems with them on and off.
 
I just found this:

http://www.anyionservices.com/mo/bollinger-county.html

It looks pretty interesting. Is anyone familiar?

Unlike DSL and other broadband technologies that are limited to only densely populated areas, T1 service is available just about anywhere with a phone line. T1, also known as DS1, uses repeaters to boost up the signal strength of the transmission - allowing it to travel up to 50 miles away from the nearest Central Office location.
 
I just found this:

http://www.anyionservices.com/mo/bollinger-county.html

It looks pretty interesting. Is anyone familiar?


...only offer you T1 service - which runs $350-500/mo depending on region - or fixed wireless service which runs $149-169/mo.

How bad you want it?

AirBaker just posted that he has high speed direct wireless, which I was gonna suggest. If you can get a line of sight you can get a fast connect. But I'm sure it is that $149-$169 a month...plus the equipment which may be $200-$300.
 
1. How is satellite internet access these days? Anyone use it? Price? Other options?

I had Starband several years ago. They're now focused on business users with a pricing plan geared toward that crowd (~$70/mo). My sister uses Wild Blue and is satisfied (~$50/mo).

Depending on your usage pattern, this may be quite acceptable. If your primary use of the 'net is email and surfing, you'll be content. If you need VPN, gaming or routine large downloads, you could be rather disappointed due to high latency. (Simple physics, really: (Speed of light / (distance to geo-sync satellite * 2) + terrestrial latency) >= 500 milliseconds per request.) This latency makes real-time activity of any kind practically impossible and wreaks havoc with maintaining VPN connections (at least any I've tried or heard of).

timwinters said:
2. Is there any kind of "receiver/repeater antenna" made for cell phones? Maybe something you put on a tower?

The short answer is yes, but depending on your location, it could be a very expensive proposition to install and maintain. Terrestrial wireless units (essentially 802.11) are also available and can transmit a surprising distance if properly aligned. These may be less expensive than cell repeaters.

Both of these options will require an internet connection of some sort on one end with you at the other. It may be cost-competitive to have a partial or full T1 installed directly to the premises. I admit this is a bit of a stretch and there are distance limitations here. On the other hand, if you're within range of the phone company's central office and there are neighbors within range of the wireless units I mentioned above, you may be able to share its cost with them.

Until WiMAX/3G/other coverage is nearly ubiquitous, folks out in the sticks are going to find fast 'net access to be problematic and/or expensive.
 
AirBaker just posted that he has high speed direct wireless, which I was gonna suggest. If you can get a line of sight you can get a fast connect. But I'm sure it is that $149-$169 a month...plus the equipment which may be $200-$300.
I tried high speed direct wireless for a while and it was nowhere near that expensive. I'm sure it was less than $50/month and I didn't have to purchase the equipment. The problem was that I was not quite line-of-sight to the tower. They started with a dish on my roof, then they put it on a 6-foot tripod. It still was not reliable, but by that time I discovered that DSL was available where I live so I switched to that.
 
This would be for both business and personal use...

The other thing that would be quite beneficial would be a static IP address. I travel all the time and use remote desktop. If I can't get a static address at the farm then I'd need to set up a server "in town" somewhere and pay for two internet accounts...which is what I'm doing now. Over $200/month for both plus $50 for the laptop's wireless card.

By the way, the farm doesn't have cell voice service much less high speed cell internet access.
 
Ignore this post...

It somehow "posted itself" despite the fact I was still editing it. Weird.
 
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The other thing that would be quite beneficial would be a static IP address.

By "business" I assume you mean "I use it to help conduct business" rather than "I host a server." Hosting on the other side of a satellite stream is not something you want to do if you like the idea of keeping customers. :)

As for static IP, Starband offers a static IP in their upper tier packages. I've heard WildBlue offers them, but it's not clear from their site whether they do.

Regardless, dynamic DNS services like DynDNS can allow you to get to your remote desktop even with a dynamic IP and many routers support it directly. (DDNS works fine for me for exactly the same purpose you mention, though I do use fiber now.)
 
How bad you want it?

AirBaker just posted that he has high speed direct wireless, which I was gonna suggest. If you can get a line of sight you can get a fast connect. But I'm sure it is that $149-$169 a month...plus the equipment which may be $200-$300.

I just kept poking at various wireless providers... Found a mom/pop ISP off of DSLreports.com.

It's roughly $80/month and $100 for the equipment, but I signed up for a 3 year term.

Where abouts are you located?
 
Tim, we have satellite here because that is our only option. It's better than dial-up, but not as good as anything else that we are aware of. We use Hughes and have had problems with them on and off.
Diana, are youse guys swimming yet?.....
 
Diana, are youse guys swimming yet?.....
Good morning Bruce. :) We only got 4 inches of rain here yesterday. The creek didn't get close to the house this time, but the road beyond the driveway is covered with water. Some of the local county and state roads are closed d/t flooding. The ditch to the runways is full of water, so no flying the Citabria for a few days.

With all the heavy rain yesterday it was hard to get on the internet via the satellite...sometimes for several hours at a time, so I used my iPhone to get on-line at times.
 
2. Is there any kind of "receiver/repeater antenna" made for cell phones?

Thanks in advance for input!

Tim,
When I was Ranger at Meramec State Park, several of the camp host bought a repeater antenna from the Flying J truck stop. It work very well down in the river bottoms. Where did you buy the farm? If it is south of Springfield, I can check and see if we have any new Cell towers going up close to you.
 
Where did you buy the farm? If it is south of Springfield, I can check and see if we have any new Cell towers going up close to you.

Dean,

Thanks for the offer but the farm is on the other side of the state. About 13 miles WSW of Jackson.
 
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