Beechcraft F33A Bonanza Crash in Columbia SC

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  1. Daleandee

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    Sounds like attempted an approach into KCUB airport, weather was about 1 mile & 200 OVC. At some point during the approach or missed approach things went awry.

    200 OVC & 1 mile viz is serious IFR, not to be taken lightly.
     
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    I just took a glance at FA...it looks like the accident happened on the first try in...if FA is correct, he got really low early...
    https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N266DC/history/20210113/1459Z/KGMU/KCUB


     
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    Looking at the track logs. If a correction is made for pressure altitude, which you have to do when viewing ADS-B data, it looks like he was temporarily at RNAV 13 minimums (or very slight below) then some additional data points that make it look to me like a botched missed. On the METAR I’m seeing 1/4 FG VV002. Being proficient at missed approaches is so critical.
     
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    AFAIK the DA for RNAV RW 31 is 551 with 1 and this is the lowest it can get. If I understood this correctly, 200 OVC is a no go for KCUB at this time...


    Thank you
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    METAR/SPECI from KCUB, Columbia, Columbia Owens Downtown Airport (United States).
    SA 13/01/2021 18:53->
    METAR KCUB 131853Z AUTO 25004KT 1 3/4SM BR OVC005 05/04 A3007
    RMK AO2 SLP184 T00500039=

    SP 13/01/2021 18:51->
    SPECI KCUB 131851Z AUTO 00000KT 1 3/4SM BR OVC005 05/04 A3007
    RMK AO2=

    SP 13/01/2021 18:35->
    SPECI KCUB 131835Z AUTO 19006KT 2SM BR OVC004 05/04 A3008
    RMK AO2 T00500044=

    SA 13/01/2021 17:53->
    METAR KCUB 131753Z AUTO 00000KT 1 3/4SM BR OVC003 04/04 A3010
    RMK AO2 SLP194 T00390039 10044 20011 58036=

    SP 13/01/2021 17:06->
    SPECI KCUB 131706Z AUTO 19003KT 1 1/2SM BR OVC002 04/04 A3014
    RMK AO2 T00390039=

    SA 13/01/2021 16:53->
    METAR KCUB 131653Z AUTO 00000KT 1SM BR OVC002 04/04 A3015
    RMK AO2 SLP210 T00390039=

    SA 13/01/2021 15:53->
    METAR KCUB 131553Z AUTO 24005KT 1/4SM FG VV002 03/03 A3020
    RMK AO2 SLP227 T00280028=

    SA 13/01/2021 14:53->
    METAR KCUB 131453Z AUTO 00000KT 1/4SM FG VV002 02/02 A3021
    RMK AO2 SLP230 T00220022 53012=

    SA 13/01/2021 13:53->
    METAR KCUB 131353Z AUTO 27003KT M1/4SM FG VV002 02/02 A3019
    RMK AO2 SLP225 T00220022=

    SA 13/01/2021 12:53->
    METAR KCUB 131253Z AUTO 26004KT M1/4SM FG VV002 02/02 A3018
    RMK AO2 SLP221 T00170017=

    SP 13/01/2021 12:11->
    SPECI KCUB 131211Z AUTO 25004KT 1/4SM FG BKN002 OVC007 02/01
    A3017 RMK AO2 T00170011=

    SP 13/01/2021 12:04->
    SPECI KCUB 131204Z AUTO 25003KT 1 1/4SM BR BKN003 BKN007
    02/01 A3017 RMK AO2 T00170011=


    No short TAF reports from KCUB during solicited interval in the database.


    large TAF from KCUB, Columbia, Columbia Owens Downtown Airport (United States).
    FT 13/01/2021 17:40->
    TAF KCUB 131740Z 1318/1418 19003KT 1 1/2SM BR OVC002 FM132100 23004KT
    P6SM BKN025 FM132300 21004KT P6SM BKN060=

    FT 13/01/2021 16:16->
    KCUB 131616Z 1316/1412 20003KT 1/4SM FG VV002 FM131730 23004KT
    3SM BR OVC006 FM131900 23004KT P6SM BKN025 FM132200 21004KT
    P6SM BKN060=

    FT 13/01/2021 14:24->
    KCUB 131424Z 1314/1412 00000KT 1/4SM FG VV002 FM131600 VRB03KT
    5SM BR OVC006 FM131900 23004KT P6SM BKN025 FM132200 21004KT
    P6SM BKN060=
     
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    Just a reminder, the real hay to be made is on that preflight weather brief/check. We really NEVER have to be anywhere. Just think of the stuff you have planned the next 3 days, if you never showed up, would it be that big of a deal? Regardless of what you think, I say no.
     
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    This seems to be the second crash on a missed approach to airports reporting below minimums this month. If you're going to attempt such things, you need to be spring loaded for the missed. Instrument students almost always are set for the missed because they rarely "break out" under the foggles. Once rated, pilots are conditioned to expect to land.
     
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    Hence the need for personal minimums, based on level of experience and the equipment being flown, among other factors. Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's advisable.
     
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    I don't think "personal minimums" are so much the issue here than failure to maintain basic proficiency (executing missed approaches) that may be necessary in any weather conditions.
     
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    Yes, VERY accomplished pilot, no doubt.

    So what to look at? How much recent experience? With the weather as it was, did over confidence play a part?

    On the scale we all have various levels of confidence, up & down with the myriad of factors. Are there times when confidence surpasses ability, taking into account equipment & given conditions? I’ve seen it before(not saying here), a person’s confidence in an outcome surpasses their ability to guarantee it.

    I didn’t delve into the exact weather & approach minimums, but seriously low IFR needs to be approached with discipline and due caution.
     
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    WX was clearly way below minimum for the RNAV 13 approach.
     
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