Baja - Mexico charts and insurance

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  1. lucius

    lucius Filing Flight Plan

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    Last time I flew to Baja in 2016 WAC charts existed and I did not get any additional insurance for Mexico, since my insurance covered Mexico. Customs in San Felipe was easy; however, the authorities did look at everything, including my insurance contract. It did not look like rubber stamping.

    The Mexican eAPIS system worked flawlessly as well by sending an Excel sheet with the passport info as an email attachment to an email address in Mexico with quick email acknowledgement. I knew about Baja Bush Pilot but felt that the process is manageable without becoming a member.

    Since then, WAC charts are not published anymore. Questions:

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    https://www.aopa.org/travel/international-travel/mexico writes that the Mexican Authorities have informed AOPA that ramp inspections will begin nationwide by the Civil Aviation Authorities (AFAC). The list of documents that will be requested is among other items the "Adequate and up-to-date charts covering the route to be followed by the intended flight, as well as any other route by which the flight could possibly be diverted." What VFR charts are pilots using when flying to Baja?

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    Do pilots crossing the border buy the additional insurance, despite their US insurance contract covering Mexico?

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    Does the Mexican eAPIS (sending an Excel sheet) still work flawlessly?

    4)
    When filing the U.S. eAPIS I added my wife and kids as crew, so I don't need to enter the same passport information over and over again. This is not 100% correct, since my plane does not require any additional crew, but was told that CBP does not care. It has worked for me in the past. But has this changed? Is CBP now pickier?

    Thank you!
     
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    Jeppesen has paper charts for Mexico. And pretty much everywhere else.
     
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    I believe you will find with an online search Mexico accepts insurance issued by US companies. You will need to take the policy including the geographical coverage showing Mexico coverage and at least $300K liability.
     
  4. lucius

    lucius Filing Flight Plan

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    Thank you murphey! I looked at the Jeppesen online store, and they just discontinued Mexico paper VFR charts in 2022. But Garmin has a single update for Latin America for the G3X for $39. Problem solved.

    Thank you Clip4. My insurance agent just got back to me and said that the issue is that some parts of Mexico used to require a Spanish version of a policy in order to be valid, even if the English policy said it had coverage. He also said that they haven’t really seen it be an issue lately, but it has been a potential problem in the past.

    One additional question:

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    What are pilots doing wrt the noise certification requirement?
     
  5. mr_happyland

    mr_happyland Pre-takeoff checklist

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    I would reconsider joining Baja Bush Pilots. It's a great resource for all things related to flying south of the border.
     
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    lucius Filing Flight Plan

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    Baja Bush Pilots is behind a paywall. It's just a forum like PoA. Why not answering any Baja related questions here?
     
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    mr_happyland Pre-takeoff checklist

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    It's more than just a forum. You can file eAPIS both ways thru there, receive up to date info regarding airport issues, fuel availability, regulations, trip reports etc. Plus the forums are a wealth of info for questions just like yours, frequented by people regularly making trips south of the border. It's a whopping $49/yr. Just trying to help.
     
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    I agree with the comments above about the value of membership in Baja Bush Pilots.

    Regarding insurance:
    • if your US-issued policy clearly states coverage for Mexico and at or above US$300,000... that's sufficient (ref: letter from Mexican authorities)
    • you can get a short-term Mexico-issued policy from Baja Bush Pilots.
    Regarding maps:
    • for in-panel GPS -- you'll want e.g. the Garmin "Americas" subscription
    • for ForeFlight
      • the Aeronautical map provides all the basic stuff (see below; terrain, airspace, VORs, frequencies, etc)
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    • you can load into ForeFlight outdated pseudo-WAC charts for Mexico (see below; useful for names of rivers, capes, etc) at:
      http://zeroslope.com/maps/
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    If you're traveling to Mexico (or Bahamas, Canada) more than once or twice a year I strongly suggest getting a FlashPass.net (and app) subscription for greatly simplified eAPIS filing.

    Enjoy
    Wayne

    Happy to help with any logistics questions, just DM.
     
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