Bad at Whidbey NAS

young expectant mother up the street is holding her breath, her husband was flying this morning.

It is a small community.
 
Tom-D said:
young expectant mother up the street is holding her breath, her husband was flying this morning.

It is a small community.
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Hoping the best for her..........

It will take weeks for positive tissue/DNA samples to come back conclusive on this crash..... They must have hit at over 500MPH...
 
N801BH said:
Hoping the best for her..........

It will take weeks for positive tissue/DNA samples to come back conclusive on this crash..... They must have hit at over 500MPH...
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Sure, to positively 100% ID them. I'm quite sure the military doesn't let a jet go out without knowing who is on board. They know who died in the jet.
 
KSCessnaDriver said:
Sure, to positively 100% ID them. I'm quite sure the military doesn't let a jet go out without knowing who is on board. They know who died in the jet.
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That is correct....they just won't release the names until all family members have been notified.
 
Terrible news. My prayers are with their families tonight, I can't imagine what that must be like to go through. I remember during CACO school, they told us about a wife who lost her husband on the side of a WV mountain in an A-6 doing a night low level. No bodies, barely any airplane, and without the closure of ever seeing him again, she just sort of pretended that he was on cruise again, or on det for many years after. She finally got some closure on it, but man, that would be hard. RIP
 
35 AoA said:
Terrible news. My prayers are with their families tonight, I can't imagine what that must be like to go through. I remember during CACO school, they told us about a wife who lost her husband on the side of a WV mountain in an A-6 doing a night low level. No bodies, barely any airplane, and without the closure of ever seeing him again, she just sort of pretended that he was on cruise again, or on det for many years after. She finally got some closure on it, but man, that would be hard. RIP
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Very few collateral duties are enjoyable, but CACO has got to be one of the toughest.
 
Condolences to and prayers for all that are a part of the Navy Family, and especially those that will be directly affected by this tragedy.
 
A stark reminder that training has to reflect operational realities, and in low level work there is no margin of error. I was impressed by the quality of the coverage in the OPs link. Nice to see accurate reporting for a change.
 
Rest In Peace guys.
The low level IR cockpit video in the news link of better day's flying is good.
 
Threefingeredjack said:
A stark reminder that training has to reflect operational realities, and in low level work there is no margin of error. I was impressed by the quality of the coverage in the OPs link. Nice to see accurate reporting for a change.
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Yeah that was a pretty high quality article as far as aviation reporting goes. I did like the fact that the lady from the interview had decided that it would be a good idea to pack her kid into the car and go get in the way of the emergency response, as well as show her kid firsthand what a fatal airplane accident looks like. Probably wouldn't have been my first choice of actions....just saying.....
 
wow. been there - up at Whidbey. thankfully not done that. Very little pieces. Everybody used to get to a phone fast and call home. . .
 
35 AoA said:
Yeah that was a pretty high quality article as far as aviation reporting goes. I did like the fact that the lady from the interview had decided that it would be a good idea to pack her kid into the car and go get in the way of the emergency response, as well as show her kid firsthand what a fatal airplane accident looks like. Probably wouldn't have been my first choice of actions....just saying.....
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All she apparently knew is that there was a big boom and smoke in the air. Should she ignore it, or go see if there's anything she can do? Keep in mind this is rural area where she's probably used to police response takes up to an hour.

As far as the kid, perhaps the kid was of an age where she couldn't leave him alone at home...

Ron Wanttaja
 
wanttaja said:
All she apparently knew is that there was a big boom and smoke in the air. Should she ignore it, or go see if there's anything she can do? Keep in mind this is rural area where she's probably used to police response takes up to an hour.

As far as the kid, perhaps the kid was of an age where she couldn't leave him alone at home...

Ron Wanttaja
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Fair points.
 
Tom-D said:
This was taken in the area that the jet went down, just west of Spokane.

we have all our neighbors home tonight.

http://www.whidbeynewstimes.com/news/197028861.html
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Good news. I don't personally know anyone at -129 at this point, but I know a couple guys who were anxiously awaiting word from friends there. Smartly so, I'm sure none of them are really responding until PNOK notification. I remember after the crash in VA Beach last year, my phone ran out of batteries within about 3 hours from the txts, phone calls and voicemails I was getting. In all honesty, I sent my folks some cryptic texts to let them know I was ok, that it wasn't my squadron, and to not let my mom watch the news, but other than that I played by the rules. I guess in that instance it was kind of a moot point since my little sister in law was standing there with me when we saw it go down into the trees a couple miles away, and thus already alerting the family.
 
The toughest thing about an incident like this is how the emotional ripples expend through the community involved. Families get a reality check, and sometimes wounds are inflicted that take years to surface. When we lost a crew out of CGAS Sacramento in 2009 the impact on all the families was visible. At the memorial I overheard a young girl, maybe 5 or 6 asking her father if he was "going away" too someday. Her answer was a big hug, and the tears in her father's eyes told volumes.

Everybody who puts on green Nomex lost today. And tonight every family who has a loved one who flies for their country feels this loss. Do not forget these, and the countless others who have offered up their futures for all of us.
 
I hope this puts an end to these old rust buckets.

They have been flying with cracks in the wing spars, and J52-p408s that are maintained by used part overhauls for decades.
 
http://www.whidbeynewstimes.com/news/199053021.html#

The scuttlebutt is she was the pilot, and was training in low level high speed ops, and was crossing right to left behind the lead aircraft, and got caught in the wake turbulence and heat of the lead which flipped the EA6B with no chance to recover at 550k.
 
Tom-D said:
http://www.whidbeynewstimes.com/news/199053021.html#

The scuttlebutt is she was the pilot, and was training in low level high speed ops, and was crossing right to left behind the lead aircraft, and got caught in the wake turbulence and heat of the lead which flipped the EA6B with no chance to recover at 550k.
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That sucks. Apparently her husband was also a Whidbey based pilot. Can't imagine the hell he is going through right now.
 
Fearless Tower said:
That sucks. Apparently her husband was also a Whidbey based pilot. Can't imagine the hell he is going through right now.
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I was told by a Squadron mate of his, that he heard of the accident on the news he knew his wife was due to be back already, so he called the ready room and asked to talk to her, they would not allow him to do so, so he knew the worst was coming, he got the knock on the door about 15 minutes later.
 
Sucks big time to loose aviators, but the game is dangerous, and they all knew that going in. I doubt any of us would balk at the chance to fly those things. RIP.
 
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