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Most of it is just great commercial aircraft shots of years gone by. Toward the end, they throw in some pictures of articles on bankruptcy with a comment at the very end. I'm not sure of the purpose of that but the pictures leading up to it are worthy of looking.

Oh, and whatever happen to flight attendant standards as evident in some of these pictures??? :)

Time To Say Goodbye
 
smigaldi said:
Isn't this the third time this has been posted? Maybe we shoudl make it a sticky?
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I had not seen it before so no way of knowing.

I'd had something else I considered posting but had seen it. I just wasn't sure if it was here or elsewhere. So, I didn't post it.
 
KennyFlys said:
Most of it is just great commercial aircraft shots of years gone by. Toward the end, they throw in some pictures of articles on bankruptcy with a comment at the very end. I'm not sure of the purpose of that but the pictures leading up to it are worthy of looking.

Oh, and whatever happen to flight attendant standards as evident in some of these pictures??? :)

Time To Say Goodbye
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I very much enjoyed seeing it again. Thanks, Kenny. Those were the days of high adventure in our world, when men had to courage to try. As for the stews, I think 'casual Friday' happened. Sad.

:cheerswine:
 
Even the ads of yesteryear wouldn't pass P.C. muster these days ...

Remember the chorus of miniskirted FA's ("stews" in those days) singing,
"We really move our tails for you,
To make your ev'ry wish come true. :rolleyes:
At Con-tin-en-tal Airlines
We really move our tails for yyeeeewwwwww!"
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:blowingkisses::blowingkisses::blowingkisses::blowingkisses::blowingkisses:
 
smigaldi said:
CAR days??
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If ya don't know, I won't say yet. Let's see who first figures out what I'm referring to. It became a reference and part of the answer to an item during the retake on my CFI oral.

I even sought out answers here on the board to help me out with the issue.
 
Stewardesses were hot, airlines were regulated.

Coincidence?



:D
 
dmccormack said:
Thanks Southwest for making Airline travel Bus service (which it is, BTW)
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Funny you should use that term, 'Bus service'. I interviewed with United one time, got an offer, and after some soul-searching, turned them down. My final, private reasoning was that I didn't want to be a glorified bus driver.
 
2256Q said:
Funny you should use that term, 'Bus service'. I interviewed with United one time, got an offer, and after some soul-searching, turned them down. My final, private reasoning was that I didn't want to be a glorified bus driver.
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Well, I think Pilots -- no matter what they fly -- are a step above bus drivers (I drove a bus for 2 years)!

But the whole idea that flying is some romantic thing faded a long time ago (for good or for ill, but that's the way it is).

I'm here, I wanna get there is at root what airline and any transportation service is about.

Certainly you can make the journey more pleasant, but the flying public has voted with dollars -- open seating, peanuts and casual Friday garb on attendants that don't take themselves too seriously is fine, thank you.
 
dmccormack said:
Certainly you can make the journey more pleasant, but the flying public has voted with dollars -- open seating, peanuts and casual Friday garb on attendants that don't take themselves too seriously is fine, thank you.
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Right you are. Funny how the Uniteds and Americans of the world still don't get it.
 
dmccormack said:
In a (perhaps apocryphal) encounter in Parliament, when accosted by an opposition member:

MP: "You, Sir, are trifling with the traditions of the Royal Navy!"
Churchill: "The Traditions of the Navy, Sir, are rum, sodomy, and the lash!"
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Don't forget cussing. I learned how to cuss in the Navy!
 
KennyFlys said:
Don't forget cussing. I learned how to cuss in the Navy!
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My father volunteered for Subs but served on Destroyer Escorts in the Pacific in WW2.

When I was 17 he told me, "Whatever you do, Don't join the Navy."

I enlisted in the Air Force and spent 10 years there.

I transferred to the Army, went to OCS, and served 11 years as an officer there.

And for the last 8 years I've worked for a Navy contractor, with Brown Shoes walking through our facility all the time.

I can't get away from these salts...
 
Dings, a poor old Airedale doesn't stand a chance around you guys! :eek: Must be a squad of ground-pounders and squishy squids. :D Guess I'll just have to go back to my hootch and break out the wine, see if I can't console myself. Being a pilot is hard lions. That's okay. :rofl:

You are, of course, correct in all you say. I still miss the old days, though. Can't help it, just the way I'm built. :cheerswine:
 
2256Q said:
Dings, a poor old Airedale doesn't stand a chance around you guys! :eek: Must be a squad of ground-pounders and squishy squids. :D Guess I'll just have to go back to my hootch and break out the wine, see if I can't console myself. Being a pilot is hard lions. That's okay. :rofl:

You are, of course, correct in all you say. I still miss the old days, though. Can't help it, just the way I'm built. :cheerswine:
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I don't recall seeing a tail hook on that 'vark, Tex! :)

Although, you could have impressed a few had you flown the Skywarrior off our deck. :D

Two bits to the first person to tell me why! :)
 
KennyFlys said:
Most of it is just great commercial aircraft shots of years gone by. Toward the end, they throw in some pictures of articles on bankruptcy with a comment at the very end. I'm not sure of the purpose of that but the pictures leading up to it are worthy of looking.

Oh, and whatever happen to flight attendant standards as evident in some of these pictures??? :)

Time To Say Goodbye
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Great stuff. Several of the early airmail pictures (and the one of Will Rogers) were taken here in Iowa City, which was the central stopping point on the transcontinental airmail runs -- the precursors to airline travel.

Just today we had a Ford trimotor, a Stinson trimotor, a Sikorsy S-39 flying boat, a WACO and a Stearman here in Iowa City, reenacting the airmail delivery for this, the 90th anniversary of airmail. They'll be back again tomorrow -- a truly wonderful sight to see!
 
KennyFlys said:
I don't recall seeing a tail hook on that 'vark, Tex! :)

Although, you could have impressed a few had you flown the Skywarrior off our deck. :D

Two bits to the first person to tell me why! :)
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Did you know that all the F-111As did have tailhooks? Yep, they really did. They worked, too. Part of the design when they were first trying to make it an all-services plane. Don't know about the other models, as the A was the only one I flew. Bet Ron could tell us.

Had to look up the skywarrior just now. I'm not real strong on Navy planes. Or the Navy itself, for that matter. Skywarrior's almost as heavy as the 111, too. Always heard the Navy didn't want the 111B due to weight, said it would bend their decks. Have to admit I don't have a clue about impressing by flying it off your decks, though.
 
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2256Q said:
Did you know that all the F-111As did have tailhooks? Yep, they really did. They worked, too. Part of the design when they were first trying to make it an all-services plane. Don't know about the other models, as the A was the only one I flew. Bet Ron could tell us.
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I'm sure he saw some odd stuff on the deck at times.

Had to look up the skywarrior just now. I'm not real strong on Navy planes. Or the Navy itself, for that matter. Skywarrior's almost as heavy as the 111, too. Always heard the Navy didn't want the 111B due to weight, said it would bend their decks. Have to admit I don't have a clue about impressing by flying it off your decks, though.
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The A-3D Skywarrior was a heavy bugger. I think the one on the Ike was converted for electronic reconnaissance. It may have also been for ECM but I never really understood why given we had four E-6Bs on board. The Intruders and Vikings could also be fitted with ECM pods.

The one thing I recall about the designation was A-3D was short for "All Three Dead." The Skywarrior had no ejection seats. Given its weight, I doubt it floated all that well. It weighed more than the Hawkeye and looked like it was on steroids. Thinking back, it looked weird compared to most birds. By its appearance, you'd think the cats would never have enough steam to kick it off the deck.
 
KennyFlys said:
I'm sure he saw some odd stuff on the deck at times.


The A-3D Skywarrior was a heavy bugger. I think the one on the Ike was converted for electronic reconnaissance. It may have also been for ECM but I never really understood why given we had four E-6Bs on board. The Intruders and Vikings could also be fitted with ECM pods.

The one thing I recall about the designation was A-3D was short for "All Three Dead." The Skywarrior had no ejection seats. Given its weight, I doubt it floated all that well. It weighed more than the Hawkeye and looked like it was on steroids. Thinking back, it looked weird compared to most birds. By its appearance, you'd think the cats would never have enough steam to kick it off the deck.
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A gaggle of us were coming off target for home one day out of Hanoi. I had plenty of fuel and no damage. A Navy F-4 had gotten shot up some and needed an escort back to his carrier. I flew his wing on the way out, and through the pattern up until he started his descent to the deck. I looked down at that little bitty boat and was thankful I had a nice, long runway waiting for me. The guy landed without incident, BTW.
 
KennyFlys said:
Most of it is just great commercial aircraft shots of years gone by. Toward the end, they throw in some pictures of articles on bankruptcy with a comment at the very end. I'm not sure of the purpose of that but the pictures leading up to it are worthy of looking.

Oh, and whatever happen to flight attendant standards as evident in some of these pictures??? :)

Time To Say Goodbye
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Never saw it, thanks. Where's my hankerchief...
 
There's a good write up about the Skywarrior in this months Naval History magazine, which I get for belonging to the USNI. I had no idea that the A3 had such a long service life!
 
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