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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/1...ice-2-million-records-show/?intcmp=latestnews

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Sometimes free things are too good to be true.
A 42-year-old Vietnam-era OH-58A Bell Kiowa helicopter, given to Newark for free from the U.S. Army in 2005 as part of a military surplus program, has cost the city more than $2 million to refurbish, maintain and operate, according to documents obtained by NJ Advance Media.


An examination of the sky-high bill shows that the Newark City Council has approved $1.13 million in maintenance contracts the last five years alone, including a $27,412 invoice to strip, apply corrosion coating, prime and paint the aircraft and the purchase of new rotor blades that cost $143,386.
The helicopter also has been equipped with a night vision system that allows pilots to see in the dark and a receiver to track stolen cars, despite the city’s budget problems which, most notably, forced then-Mayor Cory Booker to lay off 167 cops in 2010.
Flight logs provided by Newark show that the aircraft – based at a hanger in Kearny, N.J. -- is usually on the ground, typically flying on Friday and Saturday nights for 4-hour patrols.
Newark first asked the Defense Department for the helicopter in 2002 to help fight the growing epidemic of stolen vehicles and carjackings, Anthony Ambrose, then chief of police and the city’s acting police director, told NJ.com.
A Defense Logistics Agency spokeswoman said 577 helicopters have been distributed under the so-called “1033” surplus program since 1996, many of them similar to the one received by Newark.
Newark Police Director Eugene Venable did not return calls to NJ.com. Some of the money spent to finance the helicopter’s operation was covered with Homeland Security grants and drug forfeiture funds, but most of it came out of the city’s coffers.
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Foxnews is good for tittilating headlines, but there really isn't any depth, or much truth, to many of their articles. $2M to maintain and fly a police helicopter for 10 years doesn't sound overly outrageous to me.
 
for 2 4 hour shifts a week to combat stolen cars? I serioulsy doubt there was even $2,000,000 worth of cars stolen during that time.
 
Not sure what the article is getting at. Helicopters are expensive. That's life. Our 407 equipped is around 3.5 million. That doesn't even cover maintenance.

More and more police departments and news stations are getting out of the business because they can't afford to operate them and it won't be long before their mission is completed taken over by UAVs.
 
I am not sure what the annual maintenance contract on a OH58 is or what it might include but it doesn't seem extreme to spend three or four times the purchase or going retail on it over the life of the machine. Your basic old airplane costs are most likely similar. And add in upgrades and a virtual municipal blank check and I could easily spend that (over five years).
One turbine engine will set you back a small fortune.
 
The town idiots [town council] got in over their heads. They thought freebies were a good thing but forgot about the cost of maintaining and flying.
 
2mil since 2002... assuming they got it the year they requested seems pretty reasonable to me. Whether they need it or it's worth it is another question though..
 
Wait, you watch/read Fox news and you are outraged? Well, who's the dumba** here? :) (nothing personal, just pointing out the obvious :) )
 
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/1...ice-2-million-records-show/?intcmp=latestnews

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Sometimes free things are too good to be true.
A 42-year-old Vietnam-era OH-58A Bell Kiowa helicopter, given to Newark for free from the U.S. Army in 2005 as part of a military surplus program, has cost the city more than $2 million to refurbish, maintain and operate, according to documents obtained by NJ Advance Media.


An examination of the sky-high bill shows that the Newark City Council has approved $1.13 million in maintenance contracts the last five years alone, including a $27,412 invoice to strip, apply corrosion coating, prime and paint the aircraft and the purchase of new rotor blades that cost $143,386.
The helicopter also has been equipped with a night vision system that allows pilots to see in the dark and a receiver to track stolen cars, despite the city’s budget problems which, most notably, forced then-Mayor Cory Booker to lay off 167 cops in 2010.
Flight logs provided by Newark show that the aircraft – based at a hanger in Kearny, N.J. -- is usually on the ground, typically flying on Friday and Saturday nights for 4-hour patrols.
Newark first asked the Defense Department for the helicopter in 2002 to help fight the growing epidemic of stolen vehicles and carjackings, Anthony Ambrose, then chief of police and the city’s acting police director, told NJ.com.
A Defense Logistics Agency spokeswoman said 577 helicopters have been distributed under the so-called “1033” surplus program since 1996, many of them similar to the one received by Newark.
Newark Police Director Eugene Venable did not return calls to NJ.com. Some of the money spent to finance the helicopter’s operation was covered with Homeland Security grants and drug forfeiture funds, but most of it came out of the city’s coffers.
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$2M to maintain and fly a police helicopter for 10 years doesn't sound overly outrageous to me.

That's because you're a rich pilot!

Seriously, as you're aware, that number is something non-aviation types could never guess would be expected to operate a turbine chopper.


And BTW, the original story came from NJ.com, so you can lay off the FoxNews rant.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/20...licopter_cost_newark_police_more_than_2m.html
 
WE ALL have seen that ramp queen thats just been sitting there since Reagan was President - you could have it for 'free' if you wanted to fix it up - but given the corrosion and dry rot and what not - its cheaper to not take something free.
 
The town idiots [town council] got in over their heads. They thought freebies were a good thing but forgot about the cost of maintaining and flying.

And in keeping with the theme of

Beware of Greeks bearing free gifts...

Our local county was given 80 defibrilators (sp) a few years back by DHS under the stipulation they had to be kept operational for 10 years.. All the EMS leaders /county managers spend weeks back slapping each other and got press releases out to the papers and radio stations touting their wonderful gifts... Made comments about having a unit in every patrol car, fire truck and even in all EMS employee vehicles so there would be one within 1/4 mile of all residences 24/7 and ready to save lives...

The general public ate it up and held the politicians on a pedestal for landing such a great asset for the community....


Till about a year later when some county maintenance worker was doing inventory and preventative service work on the units...

Turns out ALL the units were manufactured the same week and ALL had the same batteries with the SAME expiration date.. Which made ALL of them unusable at the same time...... So.... the guy orders 80 NEW batteries to satisfy the original agreement with DHS to keep them operational.... He installs the batteries and all is well.......

TILL,,, the bill from the battery supplier comes in to the county treasurer,, for over $90,000.00...:yikes:....:hairraise:.....

You have NEVER seen something swept under the rug so fast in your life...:redface::redface:.....:(
 
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2mil since 2002... assuming they got it the year they requested seems pretty reasonable to me. Whether they need it or it's worth it is another question though..

The question is why a broke city without any rural areas needs a helicopter in the first place. It also looks like someone wanted to see a fancy paintjob on 'Corey 1'. It used to be that 'public use' agencies just flew the surplus birds with scrounged up spare parts until they were done for and either scrapped them or returned them to DoD on a flathed trailer.
 
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