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Princesspilot206

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I can see the light at the end of the CFI tunnel. ATP-CTP is set to happen at the end of November. How does one prepare for this? Study material suggestions please and thank you. Also, how can I set myself up for success with learning the CRJ-900?
 
Look at the ATP ACS…Task I.C. through G. are specific to the initial ATP AMEL oral, and theoretically are the things that are taught in the CTP course. Most people seem to come through the CTP course with very little idea of what it was supposed to be about, so it might be good to figure out ahead of time what you’re supposed to be learning.
 
Princesspilot206 said:
I can see the light at the end of the CFI tunnel. ATP-CTP is set to happen at the end of November. How does one prepare for this? Study material suggestions please and thank you. Also, how can I set myself up for success with learning the CRJ-900?
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No need to prepare specifically for the ATP-CTP course beyond what is necessary for the written test, where all the conventional advice applies.

You might want to check out the Turbine Pilot's Flight Manual to gain a better understanding of systems such as pressurization, high altitude aerodynamics, etc. There's also some info in the PHAK and AFH on turbine systems/operations.

For a CRJ newhire course, you should have a solid understanding of instrument procedures and it will help if you can read Jepp charts. Read a little about its systems, autopilot, etc. It is better to know a little of everything than detailed knowledge of a few things. Have a decent instrument scan, particularly with a glass panel. Flight Sim can help if you don't have glass experience.
 
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Princesspilot206 said:
I can see the light at the end of the CFI tunnel. ATP-CTP is set to happen at the end of November. How does one prepare for this? Study material suggestions please and thank you. Also, how can I set myself up for success with learning the CRJ-900?
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If you don’t have good study skills, I would work on that.
 
dmspilot said:
No need to prepare specifically for the ATP-CTP course beyond what is necessary for the written test, where all the conventional advice applies.

You might want to check out the Turbine Pilot's Flight Manual to gain a better understanding of systems such as pressurization, high altitude aerodynamics, etc. There's also some info in the PHAK and AFH on turbine systems/operations.

For a CRJ newhire course, you should have a solid understanding of instrument procedures and it will help if you can read Jepp charts. Read a little about its systems, autopilot, etc. It is better to know a little of everything than detailed knowledge of a few things. Have a decent instrument scan, particularly with a glass panel. Flight Sim can help if you don't have glass experience.
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Thank you!
 
dmspilot said:
No need to prepare specifically for the ATP-CTP course beyond what is necessary for the written test, where all the conventional advice applies.
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Keep in mind that while the ATP-CTP course is a prerequisite for the written, the material in the course applies to the oral.
 
MauleSkinner said:
Keep in mind that while the ATP-CTP course is a prerequisite for the written, the material in the course applies to the oral.
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Is he taking the atp ctp thru an airline, where he will eventually fly that airplane?
 
ja_user said:
Is he taking the atp ctp thru an airline, where he will eventually fly that airplane?
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Doesn’t matter. It’s a non-aircraft-specific oral portion.

What does probably matter, though, is that the OP is a “she.” ;)
 
Princesspilot206 said:
I can see the light at the end of the CFI tunnel. ATP-CTP is set to happen at the end of November. How does one prepare for this? Study material suggestions please and thank you. Also, how can I set myself up for success with learning the CRJ-900?
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Buy the Sheppard Air ATP test prep and study that extensively. There are two tests after the ATP-CTP, one administered as part of the course (it’s a joke, but you have to pass it) and the actual ATP written. As far as the CRJ-900 goes, focus on that once you have your ATP written complete and are taking a company provided CRJ-900 course of training. You will likely receive a MQF to study as well as all the relevant memory items to memorize. Airlines want you to succeed, otherwise you are a waste of money.
 
The ATP-CTP is probably useful information if you have never flown a high performance swept wing jet aircraft before. So if that is you, I don't mean to demean the course. But what I think everyone in mine did was just study the Sheppard written prep, and every instructor knew that was what we were doing. And if I wasn't doing that, I was kicking myself for not doing my ATP before the CTP requirement went into effect, because of course I wasn't going to ever fly for the boring airlines :)
 
MauleSkinner said:
Doesn’t matter. It’s a non-aircraft-specific oral portion.

What does probably matter, though, is that the OP is a “she.” ;)
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Ok this princess is a She :)

I don’t recall there being an oral or anything aircraft specific in the atp-ctp course. Just a basic written at the end. Of course it’s been a few years.
 
ja_user said:
I don’t recall there being an oral or anything aircraft specific in the atp-ctp course. Just a basic written at the end. Of course it’s been a few years.
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That’s because it’s part of the checkride oral.

Granted, an approved checking/testing program for an airline may not follow the ACS.
 
I’m must have missed the entire question. I thought she was asking about preparing for the atp-ctp class, or the written. Not the atp checkride and/or type….
 
ATP-CTP Oral??? Never heard of it.

The ATP-CTP is a $5k checkbox so you can play in the sims and take the written.
Day 1, I pulled out a notebook and pen and was told "No need to take notes you are not going to be tested on any of this"
Day 2 - 6, watched youtube plane crash "experts"
Day 7 took a "test" that everyone passes.
Day 9-10 played "video games" in a full motion sim.
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
ATP-CTP Oral??? Never heard of it.

The ATP-CTP is a $5k checkbox so you can play in the sims and take the written.
Day 1, I pulled out a notebook and pen and was told "No need to take notes you are not going to be tested on any of this"
Day 2 - 6, watched youtube plane crash "experts"
Day 7 took a "test" that everyone passes.
Day 9-10 played "video games" in a full motion sim.
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Well, that explains a lot.

This might make a good OP for a thread titled, “why professional aviation is dying.”

Ya pays yer moneys, ya gets yer certificates.

Meow!
 
2014 is just one point on a timeline of decline that began in the early 1980’s.
 
Lindberg said:
Then the lack of note taking in CTP course must not be the cause. An ATP certificate is harder to get today than in the 1980s.
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Only due to the CTP course and the additional 5 oral tasks. On the flip side, you don’t have to get the FAA to audit your logbook before you take the written, so you can get it done sooner.
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
ATP-CTP Oral??? Never heard of it.

The ATP-CTP is a $5k checkbox so you can play in the sims and take the written.
Day 1, I pulled out a notebook and pen and was told "No need to take notes you are not going to be tested on any of this"
Day 2 - 6, watched youtube plane crash "experts"
Day 7 took a "test" that everyone passes.
Day 9-10 played "video games" in a full motion sim.
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It can be this... But I actually had a much better experience, with the course being taught by experienced American pilots (anywhere from FOs in the sim to retired captain teaching ground) who made all of the videos much more relevant and interesting.

I also realized that you should never, ever, ever, take Flight 191 on any airline.
 
Princesspilot206 said:
I can see the light at the end of the CFI tunnel. ATP-CTP is set to happen at the end of November. How does one prepare for this? Study material suggestions please and thank you. Also, how can I set myself up for success with learning the CRJ-900?
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I don't have an answer to your question, but good luck!
 
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