Aspartame poisoning

Pick any chemical of your choice and BING for scans of the human brains that they have been chronically used in, to see if it's a substance you want to ingest on a regular basis....
 
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I dunno...I read the list of things that aspartame can cause and I'm not sure what's not on the list....

high blood sugar, thinning hair, weight gain, low blood sugar, irreversible brain damage, hyperactivity, fatigue, euphoria, depression, Lyme disease...and about 90 more

Wait, isn't Lyme disease spread by ticks?

Put me in the skeptical crowd. Yes, every chemical you put into your body has an effect. Sometimes that effect is almost nothing and it varies by person.
 
The "side effects" portion pretty much covers every possible ailment. Pretty easy to make an argument when you throw everything against the wall.
*Edit* Brian beat me to the punch. Maybe that's another side effect?????
 
The dangers of aspartame poisoning have been a well guarded secret since the 1980s.
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I think Dr. Hull needs two tin foil hats so she'll always have a spare.
 
marcoseddi said:
Don't eat or drink anything with it, you take enough risks flying.
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No matter how safe you try and be, no matter what you avoid eating or drinking, no matter how you live your life, we are all gonna die anyway. :dunno:

Have fun, play hard, party like a rock star. Be responsible, but worrying about what's in diet coke? :rofl: Not so much.
 
Most artificial sweeteners have suspicious long-term toxicology profiles.

Even Splenda, supposedly one of the safer ones, has a chemistry that makes me wonder. It's an organochlorine compound, which said group also includes compounds such as DDT, chlordane, lindane, aldrin, dieldrin, mustard gas, methoxychlor, chloroform, and other chemicals specifically designed as poisons.

As a diabetic, I avoid all artificial sweeteners like the plague. The only sweetener I'll use once in a while is Stevia. Stevia is a plant which has been used as a sweetener worldwide for many, many years and seems to actually have some positive therapeutic effects on diabetes.

-Rich
 
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RJM62 said:
Most artificial sweeteners have suspicious long-term toxicology profiles.

Even Splenda, supposedly one of the safer ones, has a chemistry that makes me wonder. It's an organochlorine compound, which said group also includes compounds such as DDT, chlordane, lindane, aldrin, dieldrin, mustard gas, methoxychlor, chloroform, and other chemicals specifically designed as poisons.

As a diabetic, I avoid all artificial sweeteners like the plague. The only sweetener I'll use once in a while is Stevia. Stevia is a plant which has been used as a sweetener worldwide for many, many years and seems to actually have some positive therapeutic effects on diabetes.

-Rich
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Smart, I think. Not only for these effects, but also because it seems that many people release insulin in response to (and perhaps in anticipation of) the sweet taste ... body is getting ready for the sugar rush.
 
JoeSelch said:
Smart, I think. Not only for these effects, but also because it seems that many people release insulin in response to (and perhaps in anticipation of) the sweet taste ... body is getting ready for the sugar rush.
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I think that's very true.

I'm a bit exceptional among people with diabetes in that I've never had a sweet tooth. Even as a child, I didn't care for candy very much. So if I'm eating out at a restaurant, I'm perfectly happy with water, unsweetened iced tea, club soda, etc., rather than Diet Coke or other artificially sweetened drinks.

If I think about it, I may bring a couple of packages of Stevia with me; but if I don't, it's no big deal. At home, I mainly use it to sweeten cappuccino or for baking things other than yeast breads (which need real sugars in order for the fermentation process to happen).

But most diabetics I know are candy freaks. I can't help but wonder if part of their problem is a vicious-cycle sort of thing in which the artificially-sweetened candies and snacks they're constantly eating are triggering a craving for even more sweets, as well as all the rest of the metabolic processes that go along with it.

But I've also found it axiomatic that diabetics as a group are a stubborn lot who won't even entertain the thought of drinking water or unsweetened beverages rather than "diet" ones with meals. It's pretty frustrating, actually.

-Rich
 
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I was using an aspartame product in my morning coffee back in the mid-80s.....one day i realized that i had been having a constant ,low pain headache for a number of days...my brother suggested i start by switching from aspartame to sugar in my coffee...hey presto headache gone. A few years ago i took to using metamucil daily to try to get my cholesterol numbers down....about a week after starting to use it i noticed the constant low-grade headache...I remembered my previous asparteme issue and checked the ingredients on the metamucil box...bingo...aspartame..,so call me a tinfoil-hat wearer if you want but I avoid the stuff as much a humanly possible.
 
Bill Lund, famous Alaska Airlines pioneer captain, used to sit around chewing a cigar on his bench at Kenmore Air Harbor.

His best advice,"Don't eat ANY white powder!"

Also, don't tint your windshield.
Don't pay income taxes.
Remove the stinger from tailwheel assembly on Cessna.
 
kgruber said:
Bill Lund, famous Alaska Airlines pioneer captain, used to sit around chewing a cigar on his bench at Kenmore Air Harbor.

His best advice,"Don't eat ANY white powder!"

Also, don't tint your windshield.
Don't pay income taxes.
Remove the stinger from tailwheel assembly on Cessna.
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Love it!
 
genetk44 said:
I was using an aspartame product in my morning coffee back in the mid-80s.....one day i realized that i had been having a constant ,low pain headache for a number of days...my brother suggested i start by switching from aspartame to sugar in my coffee...hey presto headache gone. A few years ago i took to using metamucil daily to try to get my cholesterol numbers down....about a week after starting to use it i noticed the constant low-grade headache...I remembered my previous asparteme issue and checked the ingredients on the metamucil box...bingo...aspartame..,so call me a tinfoil-hat wearer if you want but I avoid the stuff as much a humanly possible.
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All of the non sugar sweeteners give me a headache.
 
Many people react to artificial sweeteners, and those people should not use them. Most of the rest is hysteria. These things have to be ingested in massive quantities to cause toxicity in most. Drink that much distilled water and you'll see toxicity in many.
 
Total Bunch of BS. It was looked at HARD in the 1973 F&DA application. The real danger is when the feds get around to cutting the routine PKU screening for neonates. Those kids should never have aspartame, and there's about 150 of them a year.
 
bbchien said:
Total Bunch of BS. It was looked at HARD in the 1973 F&DA application.
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No, no, Doc, that can't be!

Mz. "Wants To Make A Million Dollars Off Of It" clearly states:

The dangers of aspartame poisoning have been a well guarded secret since the 1980s.
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I mean, really, she must be telling the truth. It's on the Internet after all.

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I don't doubt that some have issues (just like some have issues with many things that don't affect most), but this website has B.S. red flags scattered everywhere.
 
Do you know what aspartame is? It aspartyl-phenylalanine methy-ester. A combination of two naturally occuring amino acides. It's like saying meat is evil. It is hydrolyzed in the stomach to the amino acid building blocks, and adsorbed. Anyone who has had basic organic chemistry can figure this one out.

The republic is lost. The level of intelligence and education in the nation have ebbed to a third world low.
 
bbchien said:
Do you know what aspartame is? It aspartyl-phenylalanine methy-ester. A combination of two naturally occuring amino acides. It's like saying meat is evil. It is hydrolyzed in the stomach to the amino acid building blocks, and adsorbed. Anyone who has had basic organic chemistry can figure this one out.

The republic is lost. The level of intelligence and education in the nation have ebbed to a third world low.
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Well Doc, I guess I must get a Dr degree too, I depend upon folks like you to tell us what we need to know about medical stuff.
 
That woman's website might as well be about that dreaded contaminant, dihydrogen monoxide....flooding the great plains states just this very week. Why doesn't the gub'mnt take action!? Is it because the governators are republicans? The Horror! THINK of the children!

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Good you asked, Tom. There is so much Bull c_ap out there...I had a medical student once cite Wikipedia as a source. He failed. The proper souce was in a three week ago New England Journal of Medicine, which is SERIOUSLY PEER reviewed. "F". Then I got a call from the dean....
 
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bbchien said:
... The republic is lost. The level of intelligence and education in the nation have ebbed to a third world low.
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That's true about just about everything but basic economics is where it is really bad. And unfortunately that will "fix' everything else...

Just not in a good way. :mad:

Ernie
 
bbchien said:
Do you know what aspartame is? It aspartyl-phenylalanine methy-ester. A combination of two naturally occuring amino acides. It's like saying meat is evil. It is hydrolyzed in the stomach to the amino acid building blocks, and adsorbed. Anyone who has had basic organic chemistry can figure this one out.

The republic is lost. The level of intelligence and education in the nation have ebbed to a third world low.
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Some of us didn't take organic chem - I took physics, math, english & music.
 
bbchien said:
I had a medical student once cite Wikipedia as a source. He failed. The proper souce was in a three week ago New England Journal of Medicine, which is SERIOUSLY PEER reviewed. "F". Then I got a call from the dean....
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While getting my Masters, Wikipedia was verboten as a source, however I always found Wikipedia to be a good source for sources. I bet if that student of yours had simply looked at the source links at the bottom of the page, he would have been directed to a link for the NEJoM.
 
bbchien said:
That woman's website might as well be about that dreaded contaminant, dihydrogen monoxide....flooding the great plains states just this very week. Why doesn't the gub'mnt take action!? Is it because the governators are republicans? The Horror! THINK of the children!

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Good you asked, Tom. There is so much Bull c_ap out there...I had a medical student once cite Wikipedia as a source. He failed. The proper souce was in a three week ago New England Journal of Medicine, which is SERIOUSLY PEER reviewed. "F". Then I got a call from the dean....
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So, why is it that each time I drink a diet soda I get a head ache? Diet Ice cream will too.

regular coke, regular ice cream doesn't.
 
bbchien said:
That woman's website might as well be about that dreaded contaminant, dihydrogen monoxide....flooding the great plains states just this very week. Why doesn't the gub'mnt take action!? Is it because the governators are republicans? The Horror! THINK of the children!

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Good you asked, Tom. There is so much Bull c_ap out there...I had a medical student once cite Wikipedia as a source. He failed. The proper souce was in a three week ago New England Journal of Medicine, which is SERIOUSLY PEER reviewed. "F". Then I got a call from the dean....
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You've got to be kidding me. Did the dean actually second guess you? I am fortunate that this kind of **** hasn't happened to me at the colleges where I teach.
 
Tom-D said:
So, why is it that each time I drink a diet soda I get a head ache? Diet Ice cream will too.

regular coke, regular ice cream doesn't.
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Maybe the 80 mgms of caffeine?
I have no idea what's in the diet ice cream...Algin...salt...
 
spiderweb said:
You've got to be kidding me. Did the dean actually second guess you?
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This is a Land Grant univesity!
I am fortunate that this kind of **** hasn't happened to me at the colleges where I teach.
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It was a funny conversation. "Dean, are you condoning the use of non peer reviewed sources in the diagnosis of real live patients?"

Long pause.
"I rest my case".
He retook the rotation with somebody else. Passed with a "c".
 
bbchien said:
This is a Land Grant univesity!It was a funny conversation. "Dean, are you condoning the use of non peer reviewed sources in the diagnosis of real live patients?"

Long pause.
"I rest my case".
He retook the rotation with somebody else. Passed with a "c".
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Good. I hope the student learned his lesson, and ponied up some respect!
 
Splenda…. really a head throb for me
 
Tom-D said:
Splenda…. really a head throb for me
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Oh, tell me about it. I made the mistake of trying that diet ice cream once... holy crap, what a headache I got -- followed by a case of the runs, just for good measure.

-Rich
 
I have a business acquaintance who was diagnosed Diabetic. He did some research and uses apple cider vinegar for balancing his blood sugar and has been able to control his system.

An uncle uses Cinnamon sticks.
 
Tony_Scarpelli said:
I have a business acquaintance who was diagnosed Diabetic. He did some research and uses apple cider vinegar for balancing his blood sugar and has been able to control his system.

An uncle uses Cinnamon sticks.
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I am type 2, controlled by diet, no meds, So I'm careful what I eat, when I eat, and I read labels a lot more than when I was 50.

And when my sugar is high, I find there is no substitute for working it off.
 
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