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Dazed and confused

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AME: "Ok, you need to go back to your internist, and he needs to not find this thing." (will be kept confidential)
Me: "But I just went to him twice to get this sorted out, and it's now fine."
AME: "Right, that went in and you need to go get this checked not present again."
Me: "Sigh, ok, I'll get it done."
Internist: "So, what can I do for you today?"
Me: "I need to have you not find this thing."
Internist: "Didn't we do this about a month ago, and we wrote it up and signed it and sent it off, and it was all ok?"
Me: "Yes we did, and they really liked that report. They liked it so much we need to not find this thing again. And we need to type it up that we didn't find it, and send it in again."
Internist: "Ooooooooo-kkkkkaaaayyyyy, I guess we can not find this thing again."
Me: "Hopefully we won't have to not find this thing again, and report that we didn't find this thing not again."
Internist: "Whaahh? Nevermind, is there anything else we are not going to find?"
Me: "Let's go ahead and not find nothing, I mean anything, and write it up that the thing wasn't found, and the other things we did before weren't found either."
Internist: "I can do that. Hey, next time just write up what you don't want to find, and drop it off for my signature and I'll fax it off."
Me: "Wow thanks, appreciate that."
Internist: "I have to take more than an hour of not seeing people who need me to find things to not find your thing, and that's not working for me."
Me: "Um, I think that's a quad negative, but I get your point. Yeah, sorry. This should be it."
Internist: "Next time just drop it by for signing and give it to Henrietta with the fax number."
Me: "Will do, and sorry about wasting your time."
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AME: "OK, I got the report about not finding the no thing."
Me: "So - that's gonna be it?"
AME: "Well, they just started looking at this thing again, and they may want to go further about your specific thing."
Me: " YOU HAVE GOT TO BE ******** ME!"
AME: "Well, we can send it in and see what they do. But I'm guessing they will want more detail about the thing."
Me: "You mean the thing we can't find anymore, that we have a report saying doesn't exist now? That specific thing?"
AME: "Yup, but it shouldn't be much longer."
Me: "Tell me what you want it to say, I'll have it for you in a day or so."
AME: "Huh? Really? How do you do that."
Me: "Don't ask, so I don't have to tell you."
AME: "I'll get back to you."
Me: "Can't wait....."
 
Fearless Tower said:
I'm not so sure.

Sadly, it could almost be a description of Nick's case.
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As I have no knowledge of Nick's case (and would not discuss it if I had), I cannot comment. I do know a number of people for whom Dr. Chien has burned through ignorance and bureaucracy, to secure a hard-earned medical.
 
SCCutler said:
As I have no knowledge of Nick's case (and would not discuss it if I had), I cannot comment. I do know a number of people for whom Dr. Chien has burned through ignorance and bureaucracy, to secure a hard-earned medical.
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Nick posted it in another thread. Even Bruce wasn't able to help him through the bureaucracy.

I agree with you Spike - if you got a problem, give Bruce a call. I was just lamenting that there are still a few absurd demands from the aviation medicine side of the FAA that Bruce can't get through.
 
Assuming this is for Class 3, Contact your congressional rep and senators and explain to them again why this ***** has to stop.
 
By the way - I sure hope no one takes my story as any sort of an indicator of a lack of ability by the good Doc - he is fantastic and did everything he could - 99% of anyone else in nearly my situation would have been fine.

Kidney Stones are just one of those things that the FAA has their head in their asses about.
 
docmirror said:
How do you know that "AME" isn't a Dr Bruce, or a reasonable facsimile thereof(specialists)? Doesn't sound like the problem is at the AME office to me.
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I hasten to answer:

Not saying at all that the AME is at fault, and he or she may well have done everything possible, and done it all right.

It's just that Dr. Chien has a remarkable skill in identifying and, to the maximum extent possible remedying,bureaucratic issues relating to the SI process.

Too, like in many other disciplines and circumstances, a second set of eyes and a second brain can sometimes accomplish theretofore impossible tasks.
 
The assumption here is that the AME in the story isn't Bruce... And that's not a good assumption knowing Spike.

Most AMEs don't know what OKC will want.
 
denverpilot said:
The assumption here is that the AME in the story isn't Bruce... And that's not a good assumption knowing Spike.

Most AMEs don't know what OKC will want.
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I have no knowledge of this circumstance; so my circumspection is based upon utter ignorance, not mere secrecy. :D
 
SkyHog said:
By the way - I sure hope no one takes my story as any sort of an indicator of a lack of ability by the good Doc - he is fantastic and did everything he could - 99% of anyone else in nearly my situation would have been fine.
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I totally understood, Nick and the purpose of my post was simply that it seems some of the demands made by FAA medical folks are so absolutely absurd that even Bruce can't break through.

I may have issues with his online persona, but have full confidence in his abilities and helpfulness as an AME.
 
I have this picture in my head, every time I envision the medical certification process people in Oklahoma City...it looks kinda like this:
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And I imagine they say "Hey Lady!" a lot.
 
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