grattonja
Line Up and Wait
This is the second approach that I have offered, with all of us having wrung out the approach at ASE last week.
Here I am suggesting the ILS or LoC/DME 32 at BUF. So, shall we "shuffle off to Buffalo"? That has got to get me some negative feedback, I suppose, but I could not resist
Hopefully, my link will work. http://naco.faa.gov/d-tpp/0503/00065ILD32.pdf
http://naco.faa.gov/d-tpp/0503/00065ILD32.pdf
If the link does not work I will try attaching, which made management work last time. Anyway...
I made a couple of quick notes on a few things.
What is up with the LODIY hold? Why is it there? It is not part of the missed approach, as that is WELLA. I have seen other approaches with a second holding pattern shown. Two guesses as to why it is there. First, maybe it is published on the L chart and is a parking lot when traffic backs up for this approach? Second, is it an alternate missed procedure that can be assigned when things at WELLA get backed up? In any event, why is this hold marked the same as a missed hold? That seems to make it confusing.
The missed path. What is up with the two obstructions that basically seem to define the printed arc line of the missed approach path? They make me nervous just looking at them.
Lastly, why is YOLUC an IAF and an IF? Obviously it is an IAF for the procedure turn, but what is it an IF for? I had to look up IF on the chart. Intermediate Fix. What is that? It seems to me that YOLUC is the next point "down the road" when you arrive from GEE VOR. Is that why it is an IF?
Same questions as last time. The above, plus anything else you can think of. Anyone flown this puppy either in actual or a sim?
Enjoy
Jim G
Well, this time the link didn't work but the attachment did. Oh well...
Here I am suggesting the ILS or LoC/DME 32 at BUF. So, shall we "shuffle off to Buffalo"? That has got to get me some negative feedback, I suppose, but I could not resist
Hopefully, my link will work. http://naco.faa.gov/d-tpp/0503/00065ILD32.pdf
http://naco.faa.gov/d-tpp/0503/00065ILD32.pdf
If the link does not work I will try attaching, which made management work last time. Anyway...
I made a couple of quick notes on a few things.
What is up with the LODIY hold? Why is it there? It is not part of the missed approach, as that is WELLA. I have seen other approaches with a second holding pattern shown. Two guesses as to why it is there. First, maybe it is published on the L chart and is a parking lot when traffic backs up for this approach? Second, is it an alternate missed procedure that can be assigned when things at WELLA get backed up? In any event, why is this hold marked the same as a missed hold? That seems to make it confusing.
The missed path. What is up with the two obstructions that basically seem to define the printed arc line of the missed approach path? They make me nervous just looking at them.
Lastly, why is YOLUC an IAF and an IF? Obviously it is an IAF for the procedure turn, but what is it an IF for? I had to look up IF on the chart. Intermediate Fix. What is that? It seems to me that YOLUC is the next point "down the road" when you arrive from GEE VOR. Is that why it is an IF?
Same questions as last time. The above, plus anything else you can think of. Anyone flown this puppy either in actual or a sim?
Enjoy
Jim G
Well, this time the link didn't work but the attachment did. Oh well...
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