woodstock
Final Approach
anyone here going to go?
woodstock said:anyone here going to go?
Greebo said:It frequently does. If I'm not mistaken, the last three years running have been MVFR to solid IMC.
Just ask Ron Levy to relay his own experience with one of our compatriots during that last solid imc fly in...
Ron Levy said:Too many folks making this trip remind me of the Smoketown Bandits -- haven't read the NOTAMs/procedures and aren't real good at their radio and stick/rudder skills. You'd better have memorized the arrival procedure, be disciplined enough to NOT transmit unless asked, fly the procedure EXACTLY (including speeds in the ingress route), and be able to land the plane so you make a specified turn off the runway -- no landing short and taxiing forever to get ther, no missed turns, and know which is the right turnoff. As always, head on a swivel big-time, as there are folks who won't be doing what they're supposed to.
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BTW, I go to Oshkosh every year. Based on my casual and totally unscientific observations EAA pulls an order of magnitude better caliber pilots than AOPA. My guess is that the AOPA open house's proximity to so much east coast population temps the pilot who hasn't flown for the past millennia or two to come out for a day.
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There you go with those generalizations again Joe! You're going to get dinged again by all those Noreasters!Joe Williams said:Folks in the Northeas are just pushier and less considerate on a non-personal basis.
bstratt said:There you go with those generalizations again Joe! You're going to get dinged again by all those Noreasters!
There you go with those generalizations again Joe! You're going to get dinged again by all those Noreasters!
Joe Williams said:Probably LOL. But when my in-laws were visiting this last weekend, they gave up the keys and had me drive their Durango when we went anywhere. Said the folks here are bonkers.
Yep. Reminds me of when I worked in Pittsburgh, PA. Anyone else here know what a Pittsburgh left (turn) is?Joe Williams said:Said the folks here are bonkers.
Yeah, three rights across four bridges.inav8r said:Yep. Reminds me of when I worked in Pittsburgh, PA. Anyone else here know what a Pittsburgh left (turn) is?
MSmith said:Nope - he's right.
Incorrect. It's when you turn left in front of on coming traffic as the light turns green (because left turn arrow's are (were) uncommon). I've seen people go while the light was still red...Greebo said:Yeah, three rights across four bridges.
Ed Guthrie said:I've been to AOPA open house twice. Tying down the aircraft after the first arrival I swore I would never go back for all of the reasons Ron mentions above. I heard pilots chewing on each other using ATC frequency--for minutes at a time. I saw pilots cutting into the arrival conga line well inside the collection fix. I saw pilots blowing across the arrival conga line, at conga line altitude, clueless of where they were or how to get to where they needed to go. I saw pilots wandering around FDK airport clueless as to which runway was which, or where "downwind" might be normally located. The open house just wasn't good enough to justify my death. Tying down the aircraft after the second arrival I reminded myself of my previous pledge. I need to go this year for a 10 AM meeting but I will either arrive at 7 AM or I will drive--I am not flying amidst those yahoos ever again. BTW, I go to Oshkosh every year. Based on my casual and totally unscientific observations EAA pulls an order of magnitude better caliber pilots than AOPA. My guess is that the AOPA open house's proximity to so much east coast population temps the pilot who hasn't flown for the past millennia or two to come out for a day.
YMMV, opinions may differ, you are welcome to yours, etc., but if there weren't a compelling reason to go (and the open house itself isn't a sufficiently compelling reason) I'd give it a miss.
2 of them are anyway.woodstock said:plus FDK has right patterns.
woodstock said:ditto. definitely right. and they do get pushier the farther north you go.
woodstock said:anyone here going to go?
Carol said:I've just decided to go. I'll be arriving by car for a 10:00 meeting. Should be free by noon.
Anyone else going to be around?
MSmith said:Nope - he's right.