Alcohol in the plane

SixPapaCharlie

SixPapaCharlie

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I studied early on about carrying intoxicated passengers and what not. So I know you are not supposed to fly with drunk people. Can your passengers have a couple beers en route?

I have a friend that went on a flight recently and took a seflie of him and his pax. Back seat had a couple pizza boxes and a 12 pk of beer. Back pax were holding up a slice of pizza and clinking their bottles.

Is that officially frowned upon in a typical PPL ASEL type flight?
 
For the record, I didn't frown upon it. I'd want to do the same thing as a passenger except for the land to pee factor.
 
We did that regularly on 135 flights. Can't imaging why it would be frowned upon.

Just don't do like Dierks Bentley in "Drunk On A Plane".
 
Nothing illegal about it, I wouldn't do it due to the number of busybodies at the airprort. I've carried beer before but it stays in the cooler until we're on the ground.
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
I studied early on about carrying intoxicated passengers and what not. So I know you are not supposed to fly with drunk people. Can your passengers have a couple beers en route?

I have a friend that went on a flight recently and took a seflie of him and his pax. Back seat had a couple pizza boxes and a 12 pk of beer. Back pax were holding up a slice of pizza and clinking their bottles.

Is that officially frowned upon in a typical PPL ASEL type flight?
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Passengers are not supposed to be intoxicated. You are not allowed to drink at all. Having beer in the plane is not restricted, but why do it?
 
Provided the alcohol remains outside the PIC's bloodstream, should should be good.
 
CTLSi said:
Passengers are not supposed to be intoxicated. You are not allowed to drink at all. Having beer in the plane is not restricted, but why do it?
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Not beer, but I have some pilot friends in various parts of the country. We all make occasional trips to visit each other and it is common that when we go impose ourselves on them for a few days and sleep in their guest room and eat their food, we bring the booze. They all do likewise. Of course, we take unopened bottles and keep them secured in the luggage area.
 
CTLSi said:
Passengers are not supposed to be intoxicated. You are not allowed to drink at all. Having beer in the plane is not restricted, but why do it?
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Maybe they are on vacation and starting to relax and enjoy their trip.

Lotta people on commercial flights are drinking in the bar before boarding, and then order another on the flight.
 
Flew a friend to Branson in the 172 last weekend. Before I could say anything, he had popped a beer from the cooler in the back...I just let him enjoy it, no harm done :)
 
As long as the crew isn't drinking and the passengers keep the consumption reasonable it's not a problem.
 
murphey said:
Citation from 14 CFR?
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14 CFR 91.17(b)
(b) Except in an emergency, no pilot of a civil aircraft may allow a person who appears to be intoxicated or who demonstrates by manner or physical indications that the individual is under the influence of drugs (except a medical patient under proper care) to be carried in that aircraft.
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Bridgeford Flying Services in Napa (now under different ownership) used to offer scenic tour flights with in-flight wine and snacks. Their sales pitch was "You don't even have to share with the pilot."
 
JeffDG said:
14 CFR 91.17(b)
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Yup, that's what I remember from my training.
It doesn't mention ingesting alcohol during flights.

I know it also says that objects can be dropped from the plane if there is no harm to people or property.

It is like they want you to have beers and chunk the bottles out the window. Just don't get drunk.
 
If you can't drink why would you let your passengers? Nothing worse than being with drunks when your not.
Bad enough on the ground couldn't imagine it in the air.
 
tecprotb said:
If you can't drink why would you let your passengers? Nothing worse than being with drunks when your not.
Bad enough on the ground couldn't imagine it in the air.
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I'll drink to that!
 
tecprotb said:
If you can't drink why would you let your passengers? Nothing worse than being with drunks when your not.
Bad enough on the ground couldn't imagine it in the air.
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Drunk pax I always found tipped better.
 
Nothing is consumed within the Free Bird that is more opaque than distilled water. Interiors are expensive. Another good reason to avoid rentals.
 
tecprotb said:
If you can't drink why would you let your passengers? Nothing worse than being with drunks when your not.
Bad enough on the ground couldn't imagine it in the air.
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If you're lucky, you have a pilot isolate feature on your audio panel.
 
When I was with O'Reilly, we seldom boarded the company plane on the last flight of the day without a six pack (for two or three of us).

We never popped 'em open until we were at altitude. Then the pilot would say "don't you dare spill a drop of that in my airplane!

To which Tim once responded..."so when did this become your airplane John?"

...his reply...

"When we're at 10,000' and I'm the only one that knows how to fly it...that makes it my airplane!"

"Good point, John, very good point!" :)
 
Sac Arrow said:
Bridgeford Flying Services in Napa (now under different ownership) used to offer scenic tour flights with in-flight wine and snacks. Their sales pitch was "You don't even have to share with the pilot."
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The FBO in Napa gives the pilots a bottle of wine each. Maybe more if you buy fuel.
 
tecprotb said:
If you can't drink why would you let your passengers? Nothing worse than being with drunks when your not.
Bad enough on the ground couldn't imagine it in the air.
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Whether you let them or not is up to you but it's not against the regs. The only time we don't carry bar stock is when the passengers specifically request that we leave it behind.
 
Perfectly legal for the pax to consume alcohol, and it's expected onboard anything with a potty and airstairs. That said, appearances matter---I wouldn't want to be the dude who just landed with his buzzed frat bros only to be met for a ramp check with beer cans spilling out of the Cessna 172.
 
It's about the flying,pax drinking changes the atmosphere in the cockpit.
 
timwinters said:
When I was with O'Reilly, we seldom boarded the company plane on the last flight of the day without a six pack (for two or three of us).

We never popped 'em open until we were at altitude. Then the pilot would say "don't you dare spill a drop of that in my airplane!

To which Tim once responded..."so when did this become your airplane John?"

...his reply...

"When we're at 10,000' and I'm the only one that knows how to fly it...that makes it my airplane!"

"Good point, John, very good point!" :)
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Gotta train the pilot better. I know at least one jet that didn't leave Houston without at least one sealed bottle of vodka. Chances were that the bottle would be empty on arrival in Denver...I always stuck with beer which created its own problems in the Falcon 10...
 
NoHeat said:
I thought you carried dogs.
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When I was flying 135 all my pax were humans. Benefit: Not having to load the cages. Negative: Can't put the pax in cages.
 
Ted DuPuis said:
When I was flying 135 all my pax were humans. Benefit: Not having to load the cages. Negative: Can't put the pax in cages.
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You can put anything in cages
Edit: for the record, she was playing "puppy" and crawled in there. I'm not that mean ;)

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"This flight does not have onboard drink service, however the captain may slip you a cocktail weenie at his discretion"

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Here's an FAA instructional video on how to properly deal with beer in the plane.

 
Just another reason why I do not carry passengers other than immediate family - and they know my rules.
 
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