kgruber
Final Approach
Mechanics question:
Do the entries for overhauled mags go in the aircraft or engine log books?
Do the entries for overhauled mags go in the aircraft or engine log books?
All Accessories not listed in the engine Illustrated Parts break down are airframe accessories/ appliances.
thus the mags are not a engine accessory, and go in the A/F maintenance records.
The only entries in the engine maintenance records are the maintenance on the engine.
there is an AC on maintenance records.
AC43-9C
My Jeffco mechanic insists on the aircraft log, and that sounded strange to me. But your post, Tom, supports that. Thanks.
Except he probably doesn't have an "Aircraft" log, but rather, an "Airframe" log. So riddle me this, Tom -- can a mechanic with only an Airframe rating legally remove a magneto from an engine, work on it, reinstall it, and sign the log entry returning everything to service?If you were to comply with an AD on any accessory, would you enter it in _____ log?
Does the"Aircraft" encompass all systems in the aircraft?
Except he probably doesn't have an "Aircraft" log, but rather, an "Airframe" log. So riddle me this, Tom -- can a mechanic with only an Airframe rating legally remove a magneto from an engine, work on it, reinstall it, and sign the log entry returning everything to service?
I've been through AC 43-9C, and I don't see anything which supports the idea that working on a Powerplant component gets entered in the Airframe log. You'll have to point that out to me.There ya go, taking this thread on a tangent.
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Any one can remove it, but when you install any appliance on an engine you are working on / maintaining the engine. That requires the "P" portion of the rating.
That has no bearing on which log it gets entered in.
I don't think that statement is consistent with current FAA thinking. AC 43-9C, to which Tom referred, suggests otherwise, and even indicates that separate records for the prop are required, too.As far as logs go, you are not even required to have separate airframe and engine logbooks,
I don't think that statement is consistent with current FAA thinking. AC 43-9C, to which Tom referred, suggests otherwise, and even indicates that separate records for the prop are required, too.
Keep reading, and if that doesn't help, ask an Airworthiness Inspector at your FSDO.Better look again...
"c: Section 91.417(a)(l). Requires a record of maintenance, for each aircraft (including the airframe) and each engine, propeller, rotor, and appliance of an aircraft. This does not require separate or individual records for each of these items."
I don't think that statement is consistent with current FAA thinking.
AC 43-9C, to which Tom referred, suggests otherwise, and even indicates that separate records for the prop are required, too.
Do it, and you will receive the info I wrote above.Keep reading, and if that doesn't help, ask an Airworthiness Inspector at your FSDO.
Let's see a show of hands here, anybody know anyone actively working as a GA mechanic that only has a 'A' license?
Yes. Three of them. One is ready to add P, the others aren't.
As far as logs go, you are not even required to have separate airframe and engine logbooks, nor are you required to have anything resembling a "book". The only requirement is that you have records of all maintenance performed on the aircraft and it's components.
I've been through AC 43-9C, and I don't see anything which supports the idea that working on a Powerplant component gets entered in the Airframe log. You'll have to point that out to me.
Let's see a show of hands here, anybody know anyone actively working as a GA mechanic that only has a 'A' license?
test post... Do NOT READ this.
Except he probably doesn't have an "Aircraft" log, but rather, an "Airframe" log.
Now now Karl, you know they don't have to be that old.
I was told that if an engine can't run without it, it goes in the engine logbook. Otherwise in the airframe logbook.
An engine cannot run without a magneto, so it goes in the engine logbook.
It could run without a starter, so a starter goes in the airframe logbook.