ADSB out creating more risk until 2020

Discussion in 'Lessons Learned' started by Salty, Apr 17, 2017.

  1. ChiefPilot

    ChiefPilot Pre-takeoff checklist

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    So you watched him take off and continued to track him visually? Good thing you had ADS-B traffic advisories to save the day...
     
  2. citizen5000

    citizen5000 Ejection Handle Pulled

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    No. I saw him takeoff Northbound 6k feet below me. I turned West and he showed up on my ADS-B from below and behind me as he turned and climbed. The point being I could not see him and would not have known he was there or how close he came if not for ADS-B.
     
  3. ChiefPilot

    ChiefPilot Pre-takeoff checklist

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    ADS-B prevents another midair collision!

    :rolleyes:
     
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    citizen5000 Ejection Handle Pulled

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    Well, maybe a rear-air collision at least.
     
  5. denverpilot

    denverpilot Taxi to Parking

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    NTSB did simulations of the cockpit views from both aircraft. They're out on YT somewhere. They've both been posted here before also.

    The jet had a while to find and track the Skyhawk but didn't. Would have had to have been the right seater doing the looking. I don't remember who was hands on the controls and the report didn't say.

    The Skyhawk had about two seconds to react as the jet was blocked by the window pillar.

    Watching the simulation you see just how long the Tower had to sort it all out, and didn't. You also know from reading the report when you're watching it that the controllers are distracted by the supervisory controller taking over for the trainee and wish one of them would just look up and see it coming, since you know how both videos are going to end.
     
  6. John Collins

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    I am sure the Jet had you on their TCAS.
     
  7. John Collins

    John Collins Pattern Altitude

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    ADS-B traffic is a useful improvement as long as the aircraft is equipped with ADS-B Out. If not, it is largely entertainment. Aircraft 30 thousand feet above your location and 50 miles away are not much of a collision hazard.