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Ever hear the joke 'A good attorney knows the law, a great one knows the judge'? The below article is an interesting example of a lawyer spinning a story in favor of his clients. If I ever have an incident as a result of improperly applying procedure as documented, somebody find this lawyer for me.

http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=bc42ee3c-170b-4efa-bd69-8fb91026786d

Winner Aviation Hit With $11.35 Million Judgement Resulting From 2007 Accident

Attorneys Argued That Skymaster Was Improperly Maintained, Leading To The Crash

One of the largest verdicts resulting from an airplane accident was handed down on December 14 by a Philadelphia jury. Dr. Robert Marisco Jr. and his fiancee Heather Moran, both of Akron, Ohio, were awarded $11.35 million in compensatory damages in an action against Winner Aviation Corporation, a repair facility based at Youngstown-Warren Regional Airport in Ohio.
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Dr. Marisco, a dermatologic surgeon, and Ms. Moran, the pilot, were flying back to Ohio in Dr. Marsico's Cessna 337 when it developed an engine problems and went down about 10 miles from DeKalb-Peachtree Airport in Georgia on Aug. 8, 2007. A post-crash fire ensued. Dr. Marisco and Ms. Moran both suffered multiple injuries, including third degree burns covering nearly 40 percent of their bodies.
The NTSB notes in its probable cause report that "the pilot, age 34, held a commercial pilot certificate with airplane single engine land, multi engine land, and instrument airplane ratings, and a CL-65 rating with "SIC privileges only." The pilot reported 4,650 hours of total flight time, with 145 hours in make and model. Her latest FAA first class medical certificate was issued on June 5, 2007."

At trial, attorneys for the plaintiffs said Dr. Marsico's Skymaster had been maintained by Winner Aviation prior to his acquisition of the aircraft, and he continued that relationship after he purchased it in 2006. According to the attorneys, from 2006 until the time of the crash, the Skymaster had reportedly experienced recurrent problems with its rear engine. Winner Aviation performed repeated troubleshooting on a waste gate. On the day of the crash, the rear engine on the twin-engine airplane lost power after takeoff, and attempts to restart it failed. Ms. Moran was unable to maintain altitude and attempted an emergency landing. A post-crash fire ensued.

At trial, plaintiffs claimed, among other things, that Winner Aviation did not maintain the aircraft in an "airworthy condition." Plaintiffs further alleged that Winner Aviation's misdiagnosis of the recurrent problems of "power loss" in the rear engine was compounded by an alleged failure to have an appropriate inspector investigate all work that was being performed by its mechanics. Plaintiffs also alleged that Winner Aviation was aware that the front engine was long overdue for a complete overhaul, but did not recommend an overhaul to Dr. Marsico. Plaintiffs argued at trial that the failure to overhaul this engine or, at the very least, perform a proper inspection and repair of its valve guides and other engine parts, caused a diminution of power during an in-flight emergency—precisely when full power was most important.
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The NTSB probable cause report, which is not admissible as evidence in court, confirmed the engine failure but placed the responsibility for the accident with the pilot. According to the report, "Shortly after takeoff on a hot day, after the airplane was about 10 miles from the departure airport, the rear engine failed for undetermined reasons. The pilot turned the airplane back toward the airport, feathered the rear engine, and maintained front engine power at the top of the green arc of the manifold pressure gage, at 33 inches of manifold pressure. The airplane did not maintain altitude at that power setting, and to avoid houses and vehicles on the ground, the pilot performed a forced landing at a water treatment plant. During the landing, the airplane struck the top of a concrete structure, hit the ground, and became engulfed in flames. According to the owner’s manual, after an engine failure, the remaining engine power to be used is to be "increased as required." The published maximum power setting was 37 inches of manifold pressure at "red line," without any time limitations. A performance calculation indicated that at the existing ambient temperatures, and at that power setting, the airplane should have climbed at least 290 feet per minute. Additional references to the use of a 37-inch power setting, including performance calculations, were noted in the owner’s manual."
The report also states that "At the time of the engine failure, the pilot estimated the airplane was 1,000 to 1,500 feet above the ground, and between 2,700 feet and 3,000 feet above mean sea level (msl). GPS indicated a small airport about 6 miles away, but the pilot felt the larger airport they had just departed, about 10 miles to the south, would be better due to emergency equipment and a control tower. The pilot then began a gradual turn back toward the south, and while doing so, asked the passenger to verify rear engine switch positions. She then attempted an engine restart, and when it was unsuccessful, she contacted DeKalb-Peachtree Tower and advised the controller of the situation."
The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident to be the "pilot’s failure to utilize all of the power available following an engine failure. Contributing to the accident were the failure of the rear engine for undetermined reasons."
 
Ever hear the joke 'A good attorney knows the law, a great one knows the judge'? The below article is an interesting example of a lawyer spinning a story in favor of his clients. If I ever have an incident as a result of improperly applying procedure as documented, somebody find this lawyer for me.

It is exactly these sorts of lawsuits that are why aviation is so expensive.

I'm betting the owners of the plane didn't want to spend the money on the engine overhaul, likely citing "It doesn't matter if one fails, I have two." Then, failed to maintain proficiency in OEI procedures because "It's a single-line thrust plane, it's so easy." At least the pilot feathered the proper engine.

This happens all too often, and everybody loses as a result. Costs go up, which means people can't afford to maintain things as well as they should. Then the plane crashes because it was poorly maintained, and they sue. The cycle continues...
 
In Arkansas, they define "a good lawyer" as "when they get you for sodomy he can always get the the charges reduced to following too close."
 
The NTSB probable cause report, which is not admissible as evidence in court, confirmed the engine failure but placed the responsibility for the accident with the pilot. According to the report, "Shortly after takeoff on a hot day, after the airplane was about 10 miles from the departure airport, the rear engine failed for undetermined reasons. The pilot turned the airplane back toward the airport, feathered the rear engine, and maintained front engine power at the top of the green arc of the manifold pressure gage, at 33 inches of manifold pressure. The airplane did not maintain altitude at that power setting, and to avoid houses and vehicles on the ground, the pilot performed a forced landing at a water treatment plant. During the landing, the airplane struck the top of a concrete structure, hit the ground, and became engulfed in flames. According to the owner’s manual, after an engine failure, the remaining engine power to be used is to be "increased as required." The published maximum power setting was 37 inches of manifold pressure at "red line," without any time limitations. A performance calculation indicated that at the existing ambient temperatures, and at that power setting, the airplane should have climbed at least 290 feet per minute. Additional references to the use of a 37-inch power setting, including performance calculations, were noted in the owner’s manual."
The report also states that "At the time of the engine failure, the pilot estimated the airplane was 1,000 to 1,500 feet above the ground, and between 2,700 feet and 3,000 feet above mean sea level (msl). GPS indicated a small airport about 6 miles away, but the pilot felt the larger airport they had just departed, about 10 miles to the south, would be better due to emergency equipment and a control tower. The pilot then began a gradual turn back toward the south, and while doing so, asked the passenger to verify rear engine switch positions. She then attempted an engine restart, and when it was unsuccessful, she contacted DeKalb-Peachtree Tower and advised the controller of the situation."
The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident to be the "pilot’s failure to utilize all of the power available following an engine failure. Contributing to the accident were the failure of the rear engine for undetermined reasons."

Was the defense attorney not allowed to point out the pilot used less than the available power, or is that not admissible because it was mentioned in the NTSB report?
 
They still have sodomy laws in Arkansas. I thought you guys to the west of us were leading the charge on abolishment.:rofl:
 
Was the defense attorney not allowed to point out the pilot used less than the available power, or is that not admissible because it was mentioned in the NTSB report?

Hmmmm....interesting question.
 
Was the defense attorney not allowed to point out the pilot used less than the available power, or is that not admissible because it was mentioned in the NTSB report?

I believe only the probable cause is not admissible. I'll need to hunt up where I put the link to the relevant statute - unless someone else posts it first.
 
Why is the NTSB report not able to be used?

The NTSB probable cause report is an opinion, not a fact. In order to get an opinion entered in as evidence, an expert witness must proffer that opinion, after the expert is accepted as being an expert.

I believe the factual report is admissible, or at least the facts from the factual report are admissible.
 
Why is the NTSB report not able to be used?

In order to encourage people to deal openly with the NTSB, without fear that the NTSB's report will be used in civil litigation against those parties, NTSB reports are privileged documents, and are not admissible as evidence in any civil proceeding.

The thinking is that the value of an unhindered NTSB investigation, and the resulting improvements in safety, are more valuable than using such reports at trial.
 
I believe only the probable cause is not admissible. I'll need to hunt up where I put the link to the relevant statute - unless someone else posts it first.

Here it is:

"No part of a report of the Board, related to an accident or an investigation of an accident, may be admitted into evidence or used in a civil action for damages resulting from a matter mentioned in the report."
Context:
http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/49/II/11/IV/1154

This page has a discussion about how the courts have interpreted the above:

"However, courts have permitted civil litigants to use some NTSB report material, and the regulations have changed in response. Only the socalled probable cause reports are strictly impermissible in civil lawsuits, and NTSB employees are permitted only to testify as to factual matters surrounding their investigations. These limitations have upset some attorneys who argue that civil litigants should have full access to all NTSB data, but defenders have argued that the standard is necessary to protect the board's autonomy."

From (among other places):
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/National+Transportation+Safety+Board
 
In all honesty, this award doesn't surprise me at all. They were able to convince the jury (or judge - not sure if it was bench trial or not) that the engine failed as a result of improper maintenance by Winners. It seems part of that was based on improper signoffs.

There's another case that came up recently where the gas company shut off the gas for non-payment. The customer removed his gas stove (without capping the gas pipe) and replaced it with an electric stove. When he realized he had no hot water, he broke the seal from the shut-off valve and turned the gas back on. Six hours later the house went boom, badly burning six people. They sued the gas company for not properly preventing the gas from being illegally turned on. The Louisiana appeals court upheld the judgment and $15,000,000 award.

http://www.leagle.com/xmlResult.aspx?xmldoc=In LACO 20110525280.xml
 
Let me see if I understand the facts of the case:

1) The owner of the aircraft had been the owner for some time.

2) The owner of the aircraft knew about continued problems with the rear engine

3) The owner of the aircraft was apparently unaware that the front engine was overdue for maintenance.

4) The pilot did not use the closest suitable airport

5) The pilot did not all available power to maintain altitude

But the legal system was used to blame a maintenance company.

I'm sure the plaintiffs and the plaintiffs' lawyer(s) were merely interested in establishing the legal facts and the defendant's assets were not of interest.
 
Let me see if I understand the facts of the case:

1) The owner of the aircraft had been the owner for some time.

2) The owner of the aircraft knew about continued problems with the rear engine

3) The owner of the aircraft was apparently unaware that the front engine was overdue for maintenance.

4) The pilot did not use the closest suitable airport

5) The pilot did not all available power to maintain altitude

But the legal system was used to blame a maintenance company.

I'm sure the plaintiffs and the plaintiffs' lawyer(s) were merely interested in establishing the legal facts and the defendant's assets were not of interest.

I'm sure that's what the defense claimed. However the evidence produced by the plaintiff showed

1) Winners worked on the rear engine

2) Winners did not follow proper procedure while working on the rear engine

3) The rear engine failed

4) The plane crashed

5) The plane probably would not have crashed if the rear engine did not fail.

To a jury, your evidence looks like Winners trying to weasel out of responsibility.
 
I'm sure that's what the defense claimed. However the evidence produced by the plaintiff showed

1) Winners worked on the rear engine

2) Winners did not follow proper procedure while working on the rear engine

3) The rear engine failed

4) The plane crashed

5) The plane probably would not have crashed if the rear engine did not fail.

To a jury, your evidence looks like Winners trying to weasel out of responsibility.

In a civil action like this, isn't the jury allowed to assigned some fraction of the blame to both parties? Such as finding the plaintiff 30% responsible and the defendant 70% responsible? (Perhaps this happened in this case, but wasn't reported.)
 
Was the defense attorney not allowed to point out the pilot used less than the available power, or is that not admissible because it was mentioned in the NTSB report?

It was probably inadmissible due to it being in the NTSB report.

In a particular high-profile case that I am familiar with, the defendant was found to be responsible when the very extensive report that the NTSB and FAA were involved with (and thus was non-admissible) clearly showed that they were not at fault.
 
In a civil action like this, isn't the jury allowed to assigned some fraction of the blame to both parties? Such as finding the plaintiff 30% responsible and the defendant 70% responsible? (Perhaps this happened in this case, but wasn't reported.)

Yes. But lawyers have come up with something called "joint and several liability", where in many cases, every person with any fraction of responsibility can be held accountable for all the damages.

So, you get in a car crash. The lady that ran the red light is 99.9% liable, and Ford is 0.1% liable for a "design problem" with the airbag system.
The lady has no money, so Ford gets stuck with the whole $1million bill.
Under joint and several liability or all sums, a claimant may pursue an obligation against any one party as if they were jointly liable and it becomes the responsibility of the defendants to sort out their respective proportions of liability and payment. This means that if the claimant pursues one defendant and receives payment, that defendant must then pursue the other obligors for a contribution to their share of the liability.

Joint and several liability is most relevant in tort claims, whereby a plaintiff may recover all the damages from any of the defendants regardless of their individual share of the liability. The rule is often applied in negligence cases, though it is sometimes invoked in other areas of law.

In the United States, 46 of the 50 states have a rule of joint and several liability, although in response to "tort reform" efforts, some have limited the applicability of the rule.

Nice, huh? Must be nice to write the laws that you make money off of.
 
Yes. But lawyers have come up with something called "joint and several liability", where in many cases, every person with any fraction of responsibility can be held accountable for all the damages.

Joint and several liability cannot be between plaintiff and defendant. So if the lady that ran the red light tried to sue Ford, Ford would only be liable for .0% of the damages, where if the pedestrian sued both the lady and Ford, Ford would probably end up paying.
 
Joint and several liability cannot be between plaintiff and defendant. So if the lady that ran the red light tried to sue Ford, Ford would only be liable for .0% of the damages, where if the pedestrian sued both the lady and Ford, Ford would probably end up paying.

That's true, but the plaintiff's award can be reduced due to contributory negligence.
 
Joint and several liability cannot be between plaintiff and defendant. So if the lady that ran the red light tried to sue Ford, Ford would only be liable for .0% of the damages, where if the pedestrian sued both the lady and Ford, Ford would probably end up paying.

I can't find specific info, but the Doctor was not married to the pilot (fiancee, not wife).
I have seen cases like this where he sued her and the third party (like Winner) got left holding the bag because she has no assets.
 
That's true, but the plaintiff's award can be reduced due to contributory negligence.

Actually, the plaintiff's award would be eliminated if the jurisdiction recognized contributory negligence.

The plaintiff's award would be reduced by comparative negligence, unless the jurisdiction recognized modified comparative negligence, where the plaintiff only recovers if the plaintiff's negligence is less than 50%.

See, I was paying attention during Torts.
 
Actually, the plaintiff's award would be eliminated if the jurisdiction recognized contributory negligence.

The plaintiff's award would be reduced by comparative negligence, unless the jurisdiction recognized modified comparative negligence, where the plaintiff only recovers if the plaintiff's negligence is less than 50%.

See, I was paying attention during Torts.

:eek::eek: :mad2::mad2:
 
Yes. But lawyers have come up with something called "joint and several liability", where in many cases, every person with any fraction of responsibility can be held accountable for all the damages.

So, you get in a car crash. The lady that ran the red light is 99.9% liable, and Ford is 0.1% liable for a "design problem" with the airbag system.
The lady has no money, so Ford gets stuck with the whole $1million bill.


Nice, huh? Must be nice to write the laws that you make money off of.

Thanks for the explanation. The quote from Wikipedia got me interested in finding out which states had "joint and several liability" and I found these handy web pages:

http://www.the-injury-lawyer-directory.com/jointseveral_chart.html
http://www.the-injury-lawyer-directory.com/jointseveral.html
 
Now it will be appealed, the only winners are the attorneys.
 
Actually, the plaintiff's award would be eliminated if the jurisdiction recognized contributory negligence.

The plaintiff's award would be reduced by comparative negligence, unless the jurisdiction recognized modified comparative negligence, where the plaintiff only recovers if the plaintiff's negligence is less than 50%.

See, I was paying attention during Torts.

Better than I...I never took any Torts!
 
Now it will be appealed, the only winners are the attorneys.
Exactly, and you better believe that Winner's insurance company is going to find themselves some better 'expert' witnesses to call the pilot's decision making into question.

I don't know what was going through her mind in that scenario, but I do know this.....if I lose one in real life, as long as I have blue line, I am NOT worrying about babying the other one.
 
I'm sure that's what the defense claimed. However the evidence produced by the plaintiff showed

1) Winners worked on the rear engine

2) Winners did not follow proper procedure while working on the rear engine

3) The rear engine failed

4) The plane crashed

5) The plane probably would not have crashed if the rear engine did not fail.

To a jury, your evidence looks like Winners trying to weasel out of responsibility.

The plane probably would not have crashed had the pilot properly flown the aircraft to the nearest suitable airport.

To any reasonable person it looks like the pilot and owner are playing lawsuit lottery instead of taking responsibility for their own failures.
 
Actually, the plaintiff's award would be eliminated if the jurisdiction recognized contributory negligence.

The plaintiff's award would be reduced by comparative negligence, unless the jurisdiction recognized modified comparative negligence, where the plaintiff only recovers if the plaintiff's negligence is less than 50%.

See, I was paying attention during Torts.

I took a look at the docket. The pilot's award was in fact reduced by 20%.

As expected, Arthur Wolk was the Plaintiffs' counsel.
 

What an effing A-hole.....

Personal aviation experience
Wolk has been a pilot for more than 30 years and holds an Airline Transport Pilot License (ATP) certificate for multi-engine land and sea aircraft.[29] Wolk owned a restored Grumman F9F Panther jet fighter[30] that he has flown in air shows[31] throughout the country; performing low level aerobatics and formation flights.[32]
In November 1996, Wolk broke his arm and back when he crashed a Grumman Panther warplane, which burst into flames.[14] He later sued the National Transportation Safety Board over its report of the crash. The lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court, also names Honeywell International Inc. and Allied Signal Inc. as defendants, claiming they gave false information to the NTSB to avoid liability. The suit says the NTSB report contained extensive errors, including a statement that Wolk was not qualified to fly the plane.[33] The judge dismissed the case in 2002 for failure to state a claim, and Wolk unsuccessfully appealed to the U.S. Circuit Court for the Third Circuit.[34] Wolk then sought Supreme Court review of the decision, but the Supreme Court refused to hear the case.[35] Wolk represented himself in the lawsuit.[34]
The guy sues anybody who criticizes him....INCLUDING the NTSB who criticizes him for crashing his plane!
 
What an effing A-hole.....

The guy sues anybody who criticizes him....INCLUDING the NTSB who criticizes him for crashing his plane!

From his bio on their web site:
http://www.airlaw.com/Our-Attorneys/Arthur-Alan-Wolk.asp
"He believes that the majority of air crashes occur because of defects or servicing negligence - issues well known to the manufacturers and/or airlines.
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This belief is in direct conflict with the statistics compiled by the AOPA ASF and the NTSB, which implicate pilots anywhere from 70% to 90% of the time. (Unless he means to include pilots as "defective" elements.) But he goes on to write:
"By negotiating substantial settlements and winning large verdicts, Arthur hopes to make it more economically sound for the parties responsible to correct these known problems, rather than simply pay off the victims' families in the event that they are sued after yet another crash."
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Given the statistics, and not his personal self-serving belief system, if he does believe the above he should not be taking any pilots on as clients.
 
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