A couple of pilot jobs - picture
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tonycondon
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Eric,
My CFI Glider is currently adding on his power rating with the goal of doing single engine fire fighting. If your nephew is willing or interested, Im sure he would like to hear from someone actually doing it. PM me contact info if this is the case.
My CFI Glider is currently adding on his power rating with the goal of doing single engine fire fighting. If your nephew is willing or interested, Im sure he would like to hear from someone actually doing it. PM me contact info if this is the case.
tonycondon said:
I should have explained a little more. An air attack boss is sort of a Fire Fighting ATC. They circle the incident usually in a twin and control the air resources and coordinate with the ground for where to use the aircraft and to make sure folks are out of the way. Aircraft are a mix of multi and single engine airtankers plus helos droping water or moving personnel. Nephew is not a pilot but very experience fire fighter.
I'll try to dig up something on SEAT piloting. All that is contracted out. Most of the pilots are ag pilots.
Forest Service pilots - the one in the lead plane need 1500 hours and must be less than 35 years old.
That's a pretty cool picture, Eric.
tonycondon said:
Here's a list of all the SEAT contractors with the Federal government.
http://www.oas.gov/apmd/seat/cwnseat.pdf
More info on SEATs and fire aviation:
http://www.aviation.blm.gov/airops.htm#SEATs
http://www.aviation.blm.gov/airops.htm
http://www.fs.fed.us/fire/aviation/
Frank Browne
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RotaryWingBob said:
A P-3 if I'm not mistaken.
tonycondon
Gastons CRO (Chief Dinner Reservation Officer)
thanks eric for clearing up my confusion, ill point him this way to the links.
Frank Browne said:
Which one?
Only those and P2Vs still flying, at least for the Feds.
Frank Browne
Final Approach
ejensen said:Which one?
Only those and P2Vs still flying, at least for the Feds.
Oops sorry. The first photo in the thread. P-3s are a very common sight here. They follow the river between Mayport and Jax so I get to see them coming and going at low altitude a lot.
AirBaker
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ejensen said:Which one?
Only those and P2Vs still flying, at least for the Feds.
Haha, It is REALLY easy to miss the second airplane in that picture. The P3, fire, and retardant take up almost all of your attention.
Frank Browne said:
I was joking a little. There are two planes in the picture. I missed the King Air on my first look.
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ejensen said:
Holy crap! I totally overlooked the KingAir! That splanes alot.
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Most tanker lead planes are contract also. For that matter most patrol planes (fire patrol planes) are contract.
I always thought that a lead plane assignment would be pretty darn cool.
I always thought that a lead plane assignment would be pretty darn cool.
tonycondon
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P3 is an amazing craft. I listened to a presentation by the pilot of the P3 that got ran into by a chinese fighter and landed in china a few years back. Amazing stuff. Hell of a piloting job just to get it on the ground. Good chunk of left wing and both left engines were messed up. He said he tore his shoulder out fighting the controls to keep the wings level. yowza!
alaskaflyer said:
Most the Forest Service leads are still Federal employees, at least down here. Since the P-Barons were all grounded they've been leasing the planes. Tried TBM700s and KingAirs.
We're down to two owned aircraft in this Region, a T206 for bug mapping and a King Aire A100 photo ship. Both are drug 'repros'.
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ejensen said:
Really?!? Surprising...
The last big fire I was on they all seemed to be contract guys, most ex-military jocks. Which suited the work no doubt, basically a strafing run with no rockets or guns, followed by a bombing run from the big boys with retardant instead of bombs!
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tonycondon said:
I believe it! I was once lucky enough to have the chance to spend a day in the P-3 sim at NAS Jax and I learned real quick that you have to fly that thing with the trim wheels. When the P-3 is trimmed for straight and level, it definately wants to stay straight and level!
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NC19143 said:
I hope the Chinese take notice the next time they fly up close to that bird. Good lesson for them.
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NC19143 said:
They've got a HUGE hangar up at Chico. Good looking planes though.
Last time I was up there I pulled the gear up to keep out of the way of their tankers inbound.
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It has.
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Doubt we will make money but here is my company's contribution to the fighting:
http://www.ci.victorville.ca.us/news/06_stories/07-18_tanker.html
http://www.ci.victorville.ca.us/news/06_stories/07-18_tanker.html
Brent Bradford said:
Lots of debate among our fire folks about whether the 747 or DC10 tankers will really work at least in the mountains. As you can see from my picture, you have to get real low. Sure do haul a bunch.