757 engine ingests ice...

i wonder if it was blue ice

they've had engines fall completely off from blue ice
 
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i wonder if it was blue ice

they've had engines fall completely off from blue ice

I wonder how that is even possible. I don't see how ice from the fuselage can even get out far enough to get to the engines.
 
The FAA said the ice broke off the fuselage of the plane and hit one of the engines


I think if you go back to the UA 747 out of HI that lost a baggage door the debris FOD'ed both engine on the right side. That's a pretty good distance, too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_811

I wonder how that is even possible. I don't see how ice from the fuselage can even get out far enough to get to the engines.
 
The FAA said the ice broke off the fuselage of the plane and hit one of the engines


I think if you go back to the UA 747 out of HI that lost a baggage door the debris FOD'ed both engine on the right side. That's a pretty good distance, too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_811

Yeah, but that isn't exactly an apples to apples comparison. It took a hell of a big chunk of ice to do that and there just aren't that many (say none) places where it can build that wouldn't go straight back. I would have to see an animation or something to see how it can happen.
 
Yeah, but that isn't exactly an apples to apples comparison. It took a hell of a big chunk of ice to do that and there just aren't that many (say none) places where it can build that wouldn't go straight back. I would have to see an animation or something to see how it can happen.

That was my thought when I read the story.

If not ice, what then? Happened in flight, not ground FOD.
 
It wouldn't have to be very large to make a dent like that at those speeds, The ice would hit like a rock shot out of a spud gun. The sheet metal isn't that thick, either.

I wonder what the criteria is for the engine spacing on a 757. I would think considerations for airflow around the fuselage would come into play. Build up an ice plug on the nose, shed it at cruise...where does it go...?

Yeah, but that isn't exactly an apples to apples comparison. It took a hell of a big chunk of ice to do that and there just aren't that many (say none) places where it can build that wouldn't go straight back. I would have to see an animation or something to see how it can happen.
 
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The FAA said the ice broke off the fuselage of the plane and hit one of the engines

Could that have been a plane with the engines mounted close in near the tail?
 
Could that have been a plane with the engines mounted close in near the tail?
Not if it was a 757.

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Maybe it was the new Boeing MD-757, a small single engined commuter airplane with automatic flight plan filing capability.

On track though, whatever happened, good job by the crew, even if OEI is not that big a deal to those who train for it.
 
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