How much would it be to install an IFR GPS on a 180? Are there alternatives to Garmin?
I have an old shotgun panel on my Cherokee. I was thinking of fixing that and also putting a non-WAAS 430 in and the quotes were coming in around $16K. I also looked at kind of a minimum to get it IFR and Executive Autopilots at Sac Exec (good shop) quoted me $3,300 in labor (a friend was going to give me a KNS 80) and it included fixing the indicator on my MX12 and getting rid of the ADF and installing the KNS 80. I think you get into the panels on these older planes and you can run into some labor.
BTW, where do you fly out of? I am at LHM.
John
KLN 89B. About 4-5K installed with the used unit, indicator, antenna and annunciator light and data port thingies. That's the setup I have on my warrior and I'm very satisfied with it. It's the most utilized piece of avionics in my stack sans comm #1.
Those are double the quotes I got.
I got a KLN89B, KI-202, AK650 all IFR certified AND a KY197 + some other misc stuff (marker beacons fixed and some wiring replaced) for less than $3000.
GPS transplant System $1K, KY197 $800 install $1,100.
Sunshine tax, I suppose. Everyone is $100/hr around here. Maybe I should take a trip east.
Sunshine tax, I suppose. Everyone is $100/hr around here. Maybe I should take a trip east.
I have an old shotgun panel on my Cherokee. I was thinking of fixing that and also putting a non-WAAS 430 in and the quotes were coming in around $16K. I also looked at kind of a minimum to get it IFR and Executive Autopilots at Sac Exec (good shop) quoted me $3,300 in labor (a friend was going to give me a KNS 80) and it included fixing the indicator on my MX12 and getting rid of the ADF and installing the KNS 80. I think you get into the panels on these older planes and you can run into some labor.
BTW, where do you fly out of? I am at LHM.
John
KLN 89B. About 4-5K installed with the used unit, indicator, antenna and annunciator light and data port thingies. That's the setup I have on my warrior and I'm very satisfied with it. It's the most utilized piece of avionics in my stack sans comm #1.
To the OP - DO NOT under any circumstances install new avionics like a 430/530 etc - or God forbid - any King 89B/94 etc - in your existing airplane.
If you do the mathematics you will discover that it will cost you less [even with repairs and the first annual] to sell your existing airplane and buy one the way you want it . . .
So what would you recommend? I am planning on buying into a 1/10 share and they have an old gps that does not even support upgrades.
If you want an IFR panel, you should pass and find something better. There is a club at LHM that has three planes, including a Cherokee Six.
Joe feels that one should not spend money to upgrade a plane when you won't recover the value upon sale of the aircraft. If everyone believed that nobody would ever do an upgrade, but would sell their plane and buy another with the desired equipment. Since the cost of selling one plane and buying another is somewhere around $5k, you can put $10k in a GPS and come out even. Bottom line is if want something, it's gonna cost ya, chief.So what would you recommend? I am planning on buying into a 1/10 share and they have an old gps that does not even support upgrades.
LHM is way too far away from me.
To the OP - DO NOT under any circumstances install new avionics like a 430/530 etc - or God forbid - any King 89B/94 etc - in your existing airplane.
If you do the mathematics you will discover that it will cost you less [even with repairs and the first annual] to sell your existing airplane and buy one the way you want it . . .
If you do the mathematics you will discover that it will cost you less [even with repairs and the first annual] to sell your existing airplane and buy one the way you want it . . .
From Avidyne's IFD440/540 FAQ: "2. What is the IFD440? (Added 5 July 2012)Anyone know - is the IFD540 plug and play WAAS compatible with the 530? Not a 530W . . . so can you get WAAS from the unit PnP from a non-waas 530?
"10. Does the IFD540 work in my existing cockpit? (24 July 2011)Then - will it send the same AP signals?
"51. Does the IFD540/440 Support TIS traffic? (Updated 5 July 2012)and -
What about the TIS traffic off the GTX330? Its not listed as compatible. . .
True. They're definitely smaller than Garmin, and haven't been around as long, but they do have a history of good products and support and have been around now for almost 20 years. Not exactly an unknown or flash-in-the-pan company.Then of course we need to worry about ADS-B In/out along with the 406ELT but looks like this one will play nice with the other Avidyne parts . . .
the real question, as always, is support and will Avidyne be in 2020. . .
ditto the old garmin 155 and 300I hate the logic that these damn all in one boxes are the only bona fide way to have /G capability in one's recreational flying, with nothing in between. Everything points to a handheld VFR GPS option or a 15K intalled cost garmin wonderbox. I find the King series to be a good compromise.
not so much, You have to remember that as new approaches are being added, a similar number of overlay approaches are being dropped. In some cases where databases have indeed gotten too big, jeppesen has separated it into east half and west half of the country, etc.Isn't one of the major problems with all these older GPS units that they can't hold all of the U.S. waypoints for all the approaches that are popping up?
not so much, You have to remember that as new approaches are being added, a similar number of overlay approaches are being dropped. In some cases where databases have indeed gotten too big, jeppesen has separated it into east half and west half of the country, etc.
I recently installed an ancient garmin 300, dirt cheap and does everything any non-waas box will do, and for the foreseeable future there doesn't seem to be any database issues.
2k radio/gpsif you don't mind me asking, how much?
...and then a couple of thousand to have it installed and certified unless you have the ability and the license to do it yourself.2k radio/gps
~1k indicator
~300 annunciator
you can find someone to approve your installation for ~$500 if you shop around. Installation grunt worn does not equal approval, and vice-versa....and then a couple of thousand to have it installed and certified unless you have the ability and the license to do it yourself.
you can find someone to approve your installation for ~$500 if you shop around. Installation grunt worn does not equal approval, and vice-versa.
You can get approved to do the installation yourself?
There used to be a guy in the area who would do it, but I haven't found another, since he retired. Let me know if you do.
Yes. All it takes is a Mechanic's certificate with Airframe rating (or a Repair Station certificate with Radio rating). However, that's a bit more than most folks care to do.You can get approved to do the installation yourself?
Will do! First I need to figure what GPS would be a good fit, if any at all.