1961 Piper Colt - $15K OBO

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  1. RyanShort1

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    1961 Piper Colt - $14.5K OBO

    So after the Taylorcraft saga ended I still wanted to be able to get around... and bought this Colt thinking I'd get something I could commute back and forth to Boerne with and maybe teach in it a bit when I'm in home territory. In the mean time we've had a baby, and I've decided that I'm done commuting as soon as possible. She's a good ship, but I just really want a Taylorcraft to use locally... and I'm looking hard. So, she's for sale...

    Here are the main specs. Will add more when I have time to go grab the logs:

    600 SMOH
    Annual 7/13
    Good fabric
    call 2one0-nine02-03seven2 for more information.

    I'm willing to negotiate a bit, but I don't want to lose my shirt right now...

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    The Flying Milk Stool! Nice little airplane.
     
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    Any serious offer will be considered.

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    Ryan - can you post specs on this? I'm down to 255lbs (and falling), and would be looking for something that can go about 105knots and carry me and the wife....cruise speed and W/B info would be nice to know.

    I'm doing my own research too, but would like to hear it from the owner himself.

    I've always had a bit of a soft spot for these planes....LSA eligible?
     
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    These aircraft are the little version of the tri-pacer, these are the nose wheel version of the clipper, they use the 0-235, 100-110 horse power, and simply will not lift the load you are asking them to do.
     
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    Some colt specs say 940 lb empty, 1650 gross. If that is right, 710 pounds of useful load and 18 gallons could allow for a 255 lb pilot and more than that much for a passenger. Even if the plane has the 36 gallon fuel, the full fuel payload would be 494 pounds. Even if the plane has put on 50 pounds of ugly dangerous fat during its life, the full fuel payload would be 444 pounds.
     
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    Bump. And yes, the Colt has a much better useful load than the 150!
    And all best offers considered as long as they aren't insulting!

    Ryan
     
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    Is it Light Sport eligible?

    Also - what is the actual W/B numbers for the plane?

    Finally, and this is a dumb question I can't find anywhere - does it have a backseat (even if its completely unusable)?
     
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    Pretty sure a Colt's gross is over 1,320 lbs.

    Nope. Colt was two seat variant of Tri-Pacer.
     
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    My W&B numbers are at home, but I'll try to get them Wednesday or so. They are pretty close to the numbers quoted above.

    Ryan
     
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    There is no way a Colt ever was built for light sport. The TCDS calls for 1650 gross. http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/0/ff3667736263dceb862572090073cf58/$FILE/1A6.pdf

    The stall speed was too high, if I recall correctly, as well. A Colt has no flaps and a fairly low aspect ratio wing.
     
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    So my bird has the 1650 gross, and weighs 994.5 empty. Pics to follow.

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    You have it listed on ASO, trade a plane, barnstormers, craigs, etc??

    I'm surprised you don't have it sold yet, that looks like a solid plane for a good price!
     
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    I would consider buying it but there is no way I could find hangar space around here, plus it is important to have radio and transponder near the DC SFRA. Good luck. I have some time in Colts, and they are great.
     
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    I grabbed a few more pictures last night on the way home from Boerne.

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    Happy to provide more details to those seriously interested. I'm trying to move her because just after I bought her, someone contacted me with a sweet deal on a Taylorcraft that will fill my original mission. I just can't float two airplanes right now. Please help me move her!

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    Number….. get that L0-235 to pull that load on a hot day.
     
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    They did just fine at KANP on hot summer days.
     
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    Had a buddy of mine in the hot muggy south that had one, he'd get in (180ish) good amount of fuel and I'd get in at 150lbs and some cans a pistols, we had no issue getting in and out of some of or favorite grass strips.

    The colts and pacers are GREAT backcountry planes
     
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    Yeah. The first one I flew wasn't that great, but this one does a lot better.

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    Ryan,

    Have you posted it at the ShortWing Piper Club website? I just checked and you can put an ad there for 90 days without charge and don't have to be a member. http://www.shortwingpiperclub.org/

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    I'll see about that.

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    I would be willing to take 13K for it...
     
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    I can't get a hangar or I would be on this. FWIW I never met the seller, but I flew a bunch of different Colts at KANP. Good luck!
     
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    unbelievable. an airworthy plane for $13k? Someone has to interested in that. :yesnod:
     
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    No kidding!
    I owned a Tri-Pacer...great, solid airplanes....:confused:
     
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    Agreed, had a Tri-Pacer, great airplanes....
     
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    Never had the opportunity to fly in a Colt....great price, but hard to pull the trigger on something you've got zero experience with. The comparison to a -150 is interesting though, cause I sure enjoy flying them.
     
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    If by 150, you mean Cessna 150, then there are some differences in how it flies. The wing has a lower aspect ratio than a Cessna 150, so it sinks a lot more when you pull the power off. You have a steeper power off approach, and you need to be fairly precise on roundout. if by 150 you mean PA-22 150, I have no time in Tripacers, but from what I read they seem to fly like Colts, but can haul a lot more, maybe three people and luggage.
     
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    It is a good price for the plane and I would have been more interested in it if I did not look at one locally.
    Well I looked at a Pacer not a Tri-Pacer or a Colt.
    Sat in the plane and normal problem I seem to have in a lot of planes. My head hit the headliner.
     
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    Based on the ad it seems like a great deal! If I had 13k burning a hole in my pocket I'd be PMing you left and right. Good luck on the sale!
     
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    I've never flown a Colt, but if the Tripacer/Cessna 172 comparison holds up with the Colt/Cessna 150 comparison, the Colt would make the 150 look sick.

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    How well would the fabric hold up being kept outside at a tie down rather than in a hangar? For example, where I'm at the inclement weather consists of rain, some occasional sleet, maybe some light frost and a few inches of snow once or twice a winter. The Cessna 152s and 172s I rent are tied down outside all year round.

    The questions don't mean I'm a prospect, but I suspect the perceived need for hangaring may be one reason it hasn't moved yet at that price.
     
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    As long as they did a good job of applying the UV blockers. UV light is death to the newer synthetic fabrics.

    (In my limited experience, classes, and reading.)

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    Years ago I flew both. They are both nice airplanes but not floaters on landing like a a taylorcraft for instance. I've owned a lot of tube and fabric airplanes and NONE of them do well outside in the weather, regardless of modern fabrics. If you ask others who've owned them I'm sure they will agree. If you don't have a hangar, don't buy a fabric airplane. I will go further and say regardless of construction, most airplanes do much better hangared and are much easier to sell when your done with it. Mine were always hangared unless on a trip.
     
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    The aircraft you rent would undoubtedly be in a hangar if there were room. They are all metal and much more able to withstand the elements. however they probably don't look so hot finish wise and so forth. UV is tough on all aircraft and a hail storm could put you out of business completely! Temperatures outside in summer can also affect your interior and radios etc over a period of time. You will not see Fabric aircraft sitting outside too often unless they are almost worthless. If this one has been left outside I personally would not buy it.
     
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    Depends where it's been. There are plenty of fabric-covered airplanes outside here and have been for years and they're just fine. The bigger hassles are wind and animals, things that affect all airplanes.

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