For Sale 1946 Ercoupe for sale

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  1. FloridaPilot

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    1946 Ercoupe for sale in good condition! (My buddy wants to sell it)


    415 C LSA C85 Total time is 1888, NDH, Slick Mags Dual fork Nose. New fabric wings. Oversize cargo. Custom Rudder Pedals. Cleveland wheels and brakes. Auto Gas STC. A really fun airplane to fly. You can fly them on a paved runway or on a grass strip. Very stable in the air and easy to get in and out of.

    Give him a call, This airplane wont last long!

    Bill 786 298-1420
     

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    Looks nice. Asking price?
     
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    Looks great!
     
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    He's an airplane mechanic, (Bill is his name). He wanted 18k but I think he dropped the price lower than that, give him a call if interested.
     
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    I didn't know you could put rudder pedals in an ercoupe. Interesting.
     
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    There's an STC for it but IMHO, they just take up foot room.

    Cheers
     
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    Not shabby!

    Depending on the time on the engine and prebuy, seems like a good buy, especially with the rudder mod
     
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    I was personally amazed when I first got in, (I have wide shoulders). It was comfortable for even me. So far it's posted here and Craigslist. Next week he will post on the other airplane boards, barnstomers, aso, trade a plane..etc
     
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    We don't need no steenkin' rudder pedals!

    Ercoupe N99825
     
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    A friend got his LS pilot license in no rudder pedal Ercoupe and he is restricted to flying planes with two axis controls.

    Ercoupes have a high crosswind component (25 knots) adding rudder pedals reduces that to 15 knots.

    They are roomy in the shoulders, but reduced side to side leg room.
     
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    For 18k or less, runs on car gas - how can people say GA is expensive ?
     
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    Explain that for me? Seems like it'd go other way?
     
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    The high cross wind component is helped because the on ground stance is tail high, which puts the wings in a no lift angle.

    It has been my experience that landings are easy in high cross wind, but take offs can be tricky because I'm trying to get lift.
     
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    I gotcha, but why does adding rudder pedals change that?
     
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    I have no idea why rudder pedals reduce crosswind component. Rudder pedals were a factory option. Maybe it was never demostrated beyond 15. But I don't know how demostrated crosswind component is achieved. Does the plane have to be flown in real world crosswinds at 15 or 25, or is it some sort of theoretical calculation?
     
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    AFAIK, the POH of certified aircraft usually state "Maximum demonstrated crosswind is XX".

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    Yes, but how does the factory come up with that value? Before the factory can put it in the POH, how do they "demostrate" it.
     
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    They probably fly it until they run out of rudder. Test pilots and all that.
     
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    That would be a perfect plane for me, if I could afford it right now, which unfortunately I can't.

    I'll be honest though, a ragwing in FL that isn't kept in a hanger doesn't seem like a great idea. Doesn't the fabric degrade pretty quickly? That's part of the reason I haven't even looked at fabric wing aircraft at all.
     
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    Fabric lasts much longer today. In addition to the fabric being less subject to UV, the first coat on the fabric is a layer that blocks UV.

    But it's entirely possible a fabric wing Ercoupe is old enough not to have the modern fabric and paint.

    Another oddity is hail damage. Fabric can withstand hail to the size that dents aluminum on wings. The fabric gives enough to absorb the hit and the hail bounces off.

    But I still do keep both of my fabric planes in hangars.
     
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    Found this thread searching for something else, but since I've built some time in Eroupes/Aircoupes recently, here is a possible explanation:

    The original no-rudder pedal Ercoupe was designed to be landed in a crab. You basically fly it right down to touchdown in a crab and then let the airplane's momentum pivot on the trailing link gear to roll straight down the runway. Flying it that way, the gear will handle at least 25 mph x-wind.

    The ones with rudder pedals....the rudder isnt super effective (not a whole lot of travel/deflection). So, if you were trying to do a slip into the wind, I can easily see how you would run out of effective rudder well before a 25 mph x-wind.

    What I don't know is if you can still land a rudder pedal Aircoupe in a crab and thus utilize a higher x-wind component. I've never tried it and don't recall what the manual said on the subject.

    In case anyone was still curious...
     
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    Still seems like if the gear is the same, the original limit would apply, but I gotcha as far as trying to apply standard technique once it has rudder pedals may limit your x-wind abilities... But again, it would seem you'd just crab from there, probably at a lesser angle? Seems by that logic, might should have been higher with pedals.

    I find those planes interesting, but have never been in/on one.
     
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    I know the demonstrated crosswind component on a PA-28-201T has nothing to do with running out of rudder pedal travel. I think all the factory does is report that it meets the regulatory requirement for demonstrated crosswind.
     
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    Demonstrated crosswind has nothing to do with max possible crosswind. It's just a number high enough to comply with a regulatory requirement.
     
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    It's what the test pilots experienced and is the highest crosswind conditions encountered during the flight test program. I don't think though that the test pilots actually set the value, but other manufacturer inputs also.
     
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    I agree that the test program demonstrated a landing in crosswinds at least as the high as the published max demonstrated number. For CAR-3 aircraft (most spam cans certified before what? 79?) I'm quite sure it has little to do with the finding the highest crosswind conditions during the test program. Kansas has enough wind and enough runways pointing everywhichway that every friggin' Cezzna could have a demonstrated crosswind much higher than the typical 17 knots which by the way just happens to meet or exceed the CAR-3 requirement.

    It is fun to go out to western Kansas/eastern Colorado and see what the aircraft will do. I've held line-up in 44 knot direct crosswinds in the 'kota. Didn't land it 'cause I didn't want to have to try and taxi in that stuff and I had no idea how the darn thing would act during roll-out. I have taxied a ways with one wheel touching which is kinda fun. Never had an intention of letting the other two wheels touch...
     
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    I am hoping to find one like this near West TN. I am retired & have no license but will get a LSA as soon as I can get a plane here. I am looking for a good 415c. My wife has stage 4 lung cancer & I hope to have it for her & a few $100 hamburgers.
     
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    @Bob Wood - What is wrong with you? A necro post for a 3 year old classified ad?

    Give us all a break.

    Did you notice the RED BOX that said don't post if you don't have anything new to contribute to the ancient thread?
     
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    Well I can fix this. Don't have time for ya.
     
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    And an initial post on PoA as well. How very strange.