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They're a rugged airplane, a pain to work on but stout. I worked out in Wilmington with airborne and we took the guillotine to about 20 of them. Crushed them for scrap. They just can't compete with the new more efficient aircraft. 2 crew instead of the DC-9's three and 2 motors instead of 3...

Go flat panel. Save space and weight :) Certainly not money.

Sure Mike, I'd be interested in seeing it. Do you know the seller? I know a few big Navion guys in the Clinton County area.

Thanks gents. I'll have to look into finding some one I can work out a deal with I suppose.

Hey welcome brother. I was a 16 crew chief as well. I got signed off to take both tests by presenting my 623's, but I also used my GI Bill to take an Airframe course because it teaches you all the stuff that we didn't deal with a lot. Like sheet metal and such. It's a great knowledge and skills...

Beautiful aren't they pinstriper? I was looking at air-clubs in my area... I'm not sure if they are any more economical than owning your own. The associated recurrent costs of membership and the per/hr costs seem bloated when you have 20+ people to an airframe buying in. Any input there? Is...

I'd have to look into insurance, perhaps set up an LLC or something and insure my work through that. To be honest, it's not something I've considered.

Thanks Henning. The bit about what engines to look into is another piece of the puzzle I hadn't yet contemplated yet. I was looking at going the route of economy. I was also unaware of the insurance rates.

I was wondering if it's viable to offer a CFI that might own his own plane maintenance services from myself, an A&P, in exchange for flight time. And what arrangements, if any are common place. I.E. I'd pay for fuel cost but he wouldn't charge me for time or some such. I'm just curious if...

Thanks, yeah it sounds expensive. I'm trying to work out a budget, and looking at how much Navion I can really afford. I'm an A&P so the pre-buy and what not, doesn't concern me over much. I'll rip it apart and take a healthy look at everything. The plane itself ranges anywhere from 30-60k.

I've recently got authorization from the at home commander (wife) to look into purchasing an aircraft for private use. I know what I want, which is a Navion with a few of the mods/STC's- like the tip tanks. I also know that it will require additional ratings to fly since it has retractable gear...

There is something else you could do. You work hand in hand with any A&P for no less than 18 months for both your A and your P, and that A&P can recommend you to the FAA to take your test. That's how all the military guys get it. We worked on aircraft for x number of years and then were...

Essentially. We used it in the pits of cargo planes to close up the seams between the composite side wall panels. They produced a smoke/flame barrier.

As an A&P and some one who has trained other A&P's and worked with non A&P's, I will not let you work on an aircraft unsupervised until I've worked with you, hand in hand, for a period of time for me to become comfortable with your work. After that time, if you are not certificated, I will not...

Thanks for the welcome to the POA! Close to Evendale. I'm at the sister plant, ACSC in Springdale. Just to the North. Casual maintenance is certainly what I'm looking to get involved in. I've got the tools...WAYYYYY to much money invested in my tools to let them now sit in my garage and not be...

I'd like to know if anyone has an idea on any place in the Dayton, OH area that might require a casual mechanic or how I might find information on becoming that. I've been a mechanic for 14 years now and have done military, general, and commercial aviation work in the past... and I love it...