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your right, relaxed may not be the right word, I don't physically take them off the pedals, but I ease up a little, to make sure I'm not holding too much rudder either way to cause the a/c to swerve one way or another once the nose wheel touches the ground.

anything is possible, but to prevent such instances, I got myself in the habit of relaxing my feet right after the wheels meet the runway.

A very good question that I don't have an answer to. However, I will re-state that though the results of both were the similiar, the circumstances were completely different (at least in my head, the only one in the a/c at the time of the incidents). In the first one, the incident happened...

a good question. On the 1st one, no, I don't think there was anything wrong with the plane. The juror is still out on this 2nd time. As I replayed the events in my head, I remember that on takeoff, the nose swung to the right as soon as I left the ground. At first I dismissed this as me just...

as the OP, I guess I'll jump back in on this. Thanks to all for their suggestions and comments, including Henning and ErikU who basically said, in not so many words, "give it up"... I understand that side of the argument, but as many others have pointed out, if some lack of knowledge or bad...

Skip - I'm still not getting what you are saying. You said it might have been lack of aileron, which I don't disagree with, but unless the wind shifted to the 270 - 280, then I don't think the weather vane would be the cause right? If the right main came off, then it seems like the wind would...

so I'm runway 25, the wind is coming from 220 - 230, if the a/c weather vanes, wouldn't it the left main come off the ground?

all good points. The 20-30 knots I referenced was because I had touched down, but wasn't at a safe speed to turn off the runway... so I wasn't on the brakes, but was letting the a/c slow down to a safe taxi speed. Rushing could be, but I go back to if the wind was still coming from 220-230...

I do have renter's insurance, but at this point, even if they would let me, I don't think I would feel comfortable renting from them. it seems like the 2 resounding messages I'm getting are: a. Don't give up and quit, which is reasonable, but I will have to see what options I really have b...

The runway is in good shape, so I doubt that was the cause. I'm still holding out hope that the mechanics might find something wrong with the rudder pedals and/or the steering mechanism, but we will see. My only other explanation is that it was a gust of wind, but I'm definately not trying to...

the taxiway is on the right, but I wasn't very close to it yet, I had probably another 700 - 1000 feet. I was slowing, so I'm guessing my speed was around 20 - 30 knots at most. The winds seemed to be pretty stable from 4 - 7 from 220 - 230, but I did notice on my trip around the pattern...

possibly as a short-term way to at least fly every now and then, but I'm back to my issue with what a/c to fly just to get through the 709. And then after that is over, the current FBO isn't going to rent to me, and I don't blame them.

agreed on all fronts. I've considered gliders, but I'm not sure where the nearest place would be to have that opportunity. My plan was to get back into that student mode by working on my IR this summer, but obviously I didn't make it that far.

nope, 2 different 172's.

Thanks for all of the suggestions and comments on my situation. I still haven't decided what I'm going to do, but here is the current issue I'm dealing with. Say I decide I'm not ready to give it up just yet and I want to do the 709 ride to keep my cert.... How? I guess I could go to another...

Yep, did that after the 1st incident, and everything checked out well. The incident today, IMHO, would have bitten many pilots. I'm still not 100% sure what exactly happened, but if what I believe happened and there was a sudden and quick wind gust from behind at that critical stage of a...

thanks. Unfortunately I'm not in a position to go out and buy a plane to get the dual time, and there is only one FBO at the nearest airport. I could switch airports and hope to find another FBO that would rent to me, but I'm not sure if that is really a viable option.

yep, following the 1st incident, I flew with 2 instructors to focus on x-wind landings and then also went ahead and got my flight review out of the way a month early, just to make sure I didn't pick up any bad habits. Only then did I start flying solo again.

a couple reasons. I'm still confident I can be a safe pilot, and I also believe I can land a plane pretty well, but the fact that I've had 2 similiar incidents when I felt I was doing a decent job messes with your head. There is also the $$ aspect, if I continued, I'm sure my insurance would...

this just stinks... I haven't posted much lately because I've been trying to get my flying back up to speed after a landing incident late last year, now this... had my 2nd incident today while landing, and this time I'm thinking it's going to cause me to stop flying. Unfortunately this time I...