TangoWhiskey
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Anybody else notice the change in covers on the new sectionals / TAC / AF-Ds?
Yes, it gave me amoments pause as I was switching out versions in my flight bag.
John
Who needs NEW charts. Mountains and towns don't move!
Barb really only flies IFR* and needs not a lot of current chartsYou so bad....
But, I like a new chart without marks and creases and rips. I stopped by Airways Friday and replaced my Sectional stock. They were out of Cincinnati, though.
It is neat to fly low and slow.
Yeah, it's cool, because I can spot the instructors and students who don't bother to pick up a new one!Anybody else notice the change in covers on the new sectionals / TAC / AF-Ds?
Who needs NEW charts. Mountains and towns don't move!
Saw them initially at KOSH. They have cut down a little on the info on the sectionals as I recall, and I think they're working on something comparable to Jeppesen's VFR+GPS charts. Leslie called those "Rand McNally's" of the air, because they remind her of the old road atlas colors.
Oh, here's the FAA's description of the changes: link
cosmetic ugrade only.......
The table of contents was moved inside on the US Terminal Procedures chart. I noticed that the night before the ground portion of my IR checkride last week, so I scoured to find any other changes before sitting with the examiner.
I'm thinking they need to issue custom binder clips with these. The East Central (Wisc & IL) is getting so thick, I was flying last week with my CFII and the largest binder clip broke and went flying in the cockpit as I was trying to wedge it onto the approach plate book.
Oh, here's the FAA's description of the changes: link
Funny (to me) that they issued that under a "SAFETY ALERT". Am I more likely to get a paper cut with this new version?
Well, for a cover change, yeah it seems silly, but for a content change - like changing around the order of the preamble (see above) - I'd call it a safety issue. If I need to look at one of those pages while I'm flying, I want to know where it is. Every extra page I have to flip is a second I'm paying less attention to flying the airplane.
That's why you look at the AF/D BEFORE you go.
The less you have to read in the cockpit, the better. As far as paper goes, thats why you need an Ipad with a chart subscription...and paper for back up. I sure wish I had one!
I'm thinking they need to issue custom binder clips with these. The East Central (Wisc & IL) is getting so thick, I was flying last week with my CFII and the largest binder clip broke and went flying in the cockpit as I was trying to wedge it onto the approach plate book.
That's why I switched to the looseleaf variety and binders. That way I could also put the plates for my destination/alternate into the tear-out page protectors, and just "rip" a plate out and put it on the yoke, and put it back in the binder later.
Of course, that's back in the day when I was still using paper.
The much-worse problem with the Wisconsin/Illinois book is that everybody wants to be Chicago (for some reason ) so it's impossible to find the plate you want for northern IL. Some airports are listed as being in Chicago when they're not, others that are close in aren't. Chicago/Waukegan or Chicago/West Chicago (DuPage) I can understand...
But when it started to get crazy is when Rockford jumped on the bandwagon. Chicago/Rockford? Are you freaking kidding me? That's like saying "Milwaukee/Madison." They're nowhere near each other. But on the other hand, airports that are MUCH closer in to Chicago *aren't* marked as Chicago. Clow is still listed in Bolingbrook, Campbell in Grayslake, Joliet in Joliet... In fact there are many airports closer to Chicago than Rockford that are properly listed.
So, it's starting to get difficult to find your plates when you go to northern IL. I'm going to Aurora, is that Aurora or Chicago? And if it's Chicago, there are WELL over a hundred pages of plates under "Chicago" now. In fact, it might be getting closer to 200. Ridiculous! They're being renamed that way for marketing purposes, but it's becoming a safety of flight issue.
Rant off.
I like the looseleaf with binders, and used that this summer. While I will go that route when I'm flying IFR informally, it really was bad for the training environment. They tore out so easily, my binder was a mess after two flights with 3-4 approaches each. But I do like just flipping the pages over and having it lay flat.
déjà écrit!Saw them initially at KOSH. They have cut down a little on the info on the sectionals as I recall, and I think they're working on something comparable to Jeppesen's VFR+GPS charts. Leslie called those "Rand McNally's" of the air, because they remind her of the old road atlas colors.
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