AggieMike88
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The original "I don't know it all" of aviation.
Global warming! Nobody fart!
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Climate change is absolutely real.
When you explain how 21% oxygen = 21% water in the air, you can call people ignorant.Of course it is. The climate has been changing since the dawn of time. I'm just amazed that there are so many ignorant people in the world who are just now realizing that fact.
All of that, and people making up their own facts, and staying barely just one side of making a personal attack with their replies, and confusing weather and climate.Here we go - haven't had a good Global Climate Change "discussion" here for awhile- has gotten ugly in the past.
I'll be interested to follow along and see if there's still a lot of heads buried in the sands of political self righteousness and conspiracy theories.
IBTL.
Indeed. I've been to Hell (and back) lots of times. Nice place, especially with Pinckney Rec nearby.
It's changing (the climate, I mean) - probably a bit faster than usual, and it may be us accelerating it. Or not. And we'll probably deal with it, but might not. It'd be interesting to follow if I was younger. Might advise my grandkids against ocean front property. It could make for some sporting competetion in a few more decades. But it's likely people who look a lot like us will still be muddling about in the next century. And a few more after that, too.
Maybe we'll come up lucky and the next "natural" ice age will kick off . . .
Or maybe we'll keep it from becoming full-fledged.It's changing (the climate, I mean) - probably a bit faster than usual, and it may be us accelerating it. Or not. And we'll probably deal with it, but might not. It'd be interesting to follow if I was younger. Might advise my grandkids against ocean front property. It could make for some sporting competetion in a few more decades. But it's likely people who look a lot like us will still be muddling about in the next century. And a few more after that, too.
Maybe we'll come up lucky and the next "natural" ice age will kick off . . .
It's a good deal, then. Implementing Paris would have cost us $2.5 trillion GDP. So let's just pay the 300 million a year and get on with our lives. We can use the rest of the money to eliminate malaria, cure AIDS, feed every hungry child in the world, and travel to mars.300 million in wx related damage in this nation this year. The cost of anthropogenic climate change. Better get used to it.
Maybe we just have the ability to do a cost/benefit analysis. Whether you believe that AGW is a big problem or not, making people like Elon Musk and Al Gore richer is not a good solution.Nowhere in the world have I seen such anti-science, anti-fact, "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge" attitudes as I have in the US. It's such a world leader in so many areas, I'm astounded how closed minded so many of the, usually more right wing and less educated, people are. (I lean right myself, so this isn't a political dig, just a fact).
Maybe we just have the ability to do a cost/benefit analysis. Whether you believe that AGW is a big problem or not, making people like Elon Musk and Al Gore richer is not a good solution.
I have proof the earth is round. If it were flat, cats would have knocked everything off the edge by now.Yeah, ageing conservative men in the US are probably the only people in the world who are smart enough to see through the lies. Sure.
If people want to claim it's not worth doing anything about, then fine, but the ones who claim that it's all a conspiracy? I don't even know where to start. I put them in the same camp as Chemtrail and Flat Earth believers, and anti-vaxxers.
When I was in high school back in the late 70s, "scientists" were all worked up about the coming Ice Age and global famine caused by massive cooling. Right now was supposed to be much colder, with significant loss of global vegetation, cold-related harvest failure and falling sea levels due to accumulating polar ice caps . . . .
Then Al Gore invented the internet and convinced the world that we are going to melt the ice caps and all drown instead.
That's 0.3 trillion just this year in this country, Sparky. Way more world wide, and its going to continue. What we'd have to do for the Paris accord is going to seem like chicken feed by the time we're done dealing with all the natural disasters.It's a good deal, then. Implementing Paris would have cost us $2.5 trillion GDP. So let's just pay the 300 million a year and get on with our lives. We can use the rest of the money to eliminate malaria, cure AIDS, feed every hungry child in the world, and travel to mars.
At this point who cares?
The rest of the world has moved on. Either:
a) Turns our we are wrong - climate change DO exist, the rest of the world end up boycotting us, and we become as relevant to the world stage as Malawi. We wouldn’t be able to afford burning more fossil fuels, which solves the climate problem.
-or-
b) We’re right - climate change does not exist - but meanwhile other governments spent trillions creating a cheap and abundant energy infrastructure that we cannot compete with, so we become as relevant to the world stage as Malawi. But hey - we feel good about being right. I’m sure our grandkids will thank us.
Either way - the planet will be fine.
Off by several orders of magnitude.That's 0.3 trillion just this year in this country, Sparky.
The low estimate for complying with Kyoto was an "insignificant" 1% of US GDP. That's a mere $180 Billion per year. And Kyoto was cheap compared to Paris.That's 0.3 trillion just this year in this country, Sparky. Way more world wide, and its going to continue. What we'd have to do for the Paris accord is going to seem like chicken feed by the time we're done dealing with all the natural disasters.
That's 0.3 trillion just this year in this country, Sparky. Way more world wide, and its going to continue. What we'd have to do for the Paris accord is going to seem like chicken feed by the time we're done dealing with all the natural disasters.
You need to get around more - I've found willful ignorance to be universal. Topics vary, but nothing remarkable about U.S., as opposed to Europe or Asia, or anywhere else when it comes to being unswayed by facts.Nowhere in the world have I seen such anti-science, anti-fact, "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge" attitudes as I have in the US. It's such a world leader in so many areas, I'm astounded how closed minded so many of the, usually more right wing and less educated, people are. (I lean right myself, so this isn't a political dig, just a fact).
The rest of the world can't agree on boycotting a meglomanical despot on the verge of nuclear weapon development and delivery. . .I'm mortal lock certain the rest of the world will do what serves their short term interest, just like always.At this point who cares?
The rest of the world has moved on. Either:
a) Turns our we are wrong - climate change DO exist, the rest of the world end up boycotting us, and we become as relevant to the world stage as Malawi. We wouldn’t be able to afford burning more fossil fuels, which solves the climate problem.
-or-
b) We’re right - climate change does not exist - but meanwhile other governments spent trillions creating a cheap and abundant energy infrastructure that we cannot compete with, so we become as relevant to the world stage as Malawi. But hey - we feel good about being right. I’m sure our grandkids will thank us.
Either way - the planet will be fine.
I've found willful ignorance to be universal. Topics vary, but nothing remarkable about U.S., as opposed to Europe or Asia, or anywhere else when it comes to being unswayed by facts.