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My mother is almost 80, and has trouble walking. She gets depressed a lot because she was quite an adventurer when young, but old age is getting her down.

In addition, she has GAD. I have been researching ingestible lavender, and some of the primary source studies suggest it may be as effective as benzos.

Any thoughts? Tea? Drops of oil?
 
All I will tell you is don't discount hollistic. Have her give it a try. No side effects. What's the worst that could happen?
 
All I will tell you is don't discount hollistic. Have her give it a try. No side effects. What's the worst that could happen?
That's basically what I thought. (There are some reported side effects, but they were found in teenage males.)
 
Lavender oil has mostly terpene compounds in it. Some of them are toxic, but not in the concentration from a cup of tea. Linalool, its acetate ester, eucalyptol, and camphor are the major compounds. Side effects do exist, like any medicinally active mixture.
 
Lavender oil has mostly terpene compounds in it. Some of them are toxic, but not in the concentration from a cup of tea. Linalool, its acetate ester, eucalyptol, and camphor are the major compounds. Side effects do exist, like any medicinally active mixture.
Right, but are the side effects of clonazepam?
 
Right, but are the side effects of clonazepam?
I'm sorry, but i din't understand the question. If the question is about the effects of using both together, clonazepam is a sedative, and lavender oil is also reported to have sedative properties, so the two may acts in concert to be a more powerful sedative.

I don't disagree that she should try the lavender, just see how she interacts with it, like any other medicine.
 
I'm sorry, but i din't understand the question. If the question is about the effects of using both together, clonazepam is a sedative, and lavender oil is also reported to have sedative properties, so the two may acts in concert to be a more powerful sedative.

I don't disagree that she should try the lavender, just see how she interacts with it, like any other medicine.
Thanks!
 
Right, but are the side effects of clonazepam?

If she is on clonazepam, do not think you can replace it right off with any non-prescription substance. It's my opinion the elderly should not be on benzos (in general for the generally healthy), but once on them long term, they'll have withdrawal symptoms if taken off suddenly. They should be weaned very, very slowly. And even more slowly than that. If they've been on them many years and if it's anything other than a tiny dose, it might not be worth it to try to get them off of it. They'll suffer too much.

In general supplements are milder and safer than prescription drugs. Which makes sense - that's why they're not regulated. Prescription drugs are concentrations that act like a sledgehammer. Supplements generally have a more nuanced, gentle, subtle effect. They usually cannot replace a prescription drug outright - by that I mean suddenly overnight. But they can affect the same neurotransmitters and so can stack, so I would be very careful taking supplements along with prescription pills. Which is basically what Cap'n Jack said.

All drugs that have a psychoactive effect, in my opinion, create a dependency that when withdrawn cause great discomfort. I'm having this issue with my 90 year old mother and her Exelon patch. they switched her to generic and it must have been weaker or something, she could not handle it. We had to get her doctor to order the brand, and she is paying $90 more a month for it because the insurance won't cover the total cost. We have to make sure she does not run out, if she goes a couple days without it, she gets very confused and depressed.

You don't say what your goal is with your mom, is it to replace clonazepam with lavender oil? Is she finding that the clonazepam is no longer helping as much with her anxiety? This is tolerance and is the main reason it's just a bad idea to stay on benzos as a long term treatment for anxiety.
 
Thanks for the detailed response!

She only takes it "as needed." But I'm not sure how often that is. I was hoping to see if an afternoon cup of lavender tea might help things.

If she is on clonazepam, do not think you can replace it right off with any non-prescription substance. It's my opinion the elderly should not be on benzos (in general for the generally healthy), but once on them long term, they'll have withdrawal symptoms if taken off suddenly. They should be weaned very, very slowly. And even more slowly than that. If they've been on them many years and if it's anything other than a tiny dose, it might not be worth it to try to get them off of it. They'll suffer too much.

In general supplements are milder and safer than prescription drugs. Which makes sense - that's why they're not regulated. Prescription drugs are concentrations that act like a sledgehammer. Supplements generally have a more nuanced, gentle, subtle effect. They usually cannot replace a prescription drug outright - by that I mean suddenly overnight. But they can affect the same neurotransmitters and so can stack, so I would be very careful taking supplements along with prescription pills. Which is basically what Cap'n Jack said.

All drugs that have a psychoactive effect, in my opinion, create a dependency that when withdrawn cause great discomfort. I'm having this issue with my 90 year old mother and her Exelon patch. they switched her to generic and it must have been weaker or something, she could not handle it. We had to get her doctor to order the brand, and she is paying $90 more a month for it because the insurance won't cover the total cost. We have to make sure she does not run out, if she goes a couple days without it, she gets very confused and depressed.

You don't say what your goal is with your mom, is it to replace clonazepam with lavender oil? Is she finding that the clonazepam is no longer helping as much with her anxiety? This is tolerance and is the main reason it's just a bad idea to stay on benzos as a long term treatment for anxiety.
 
Thanks for the detailed response!

She only takes it "as needed." But I'm not sure how often that is. I was hoping to see if an afternoon cup of lavender tea might help things.

If "as needed" is once a week or less, she likely will not develop a dependency. Just needs to watch out that it doesn't creep up.

If it were me I'd try a cup of lavender tea on a day she does not take the pill and see how it affects her. Might even have a good placebo effect if nothing else. :)
 
If "as needed" is once a week or less, she likely will not develop a dependency. Just needs to watch out that it doesn't creep up.

If it were me I'd try a cup of lavender tea on a day she does not take the pill and see how it affects her. Might even have a good placebo effect if nothing else. :)
Thanks!
 
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