Flew Without My License

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flew part 135 in. Dropped off the pax and the FO mistakenly offloaded my bag into the pax car. Inside was my medical and license. We did a short repo (50nm'ish) and put the plane to bed to go to hotel. That's when the missing bag was discovered.

CoPilot felt horrible and ended up driving back to retrieve it, but the fact remains I flew a leg without my required docs. Would y'all fill out a NASA report over this? Thankfully I wasn't ramped.
 
No
I forgot my wallet once which had my medical and cert in it.

I detected no increase in risk.
 
Y'all are lying no way you can fly without a license. Plane probably won't even start.
 
So the co-pilot was PIC at the time, right? Solves the problem.
 
Was the copilot a required crewmember?
 
Y'all are lying no way you can fly without a license. Plane probably won't even start.

Cirrus will.

They have an emergency cert generator.
You click a button if you need it and it links to the airmen database, gathers your data and generates a new cert.

I believe you can swipe your credit card, and using your heat signature, it will take a quick snapshot of your vital signs and renew your medical.
 
flew part 135 in. Dropped off the pax and the FO mistakenly offloaded my bag into the pax car. Inside was my medical and license. We did a short repo (50nm'ish) and put the plane to bed to go to hotel. That's when the missing bag was discovered.

CoPilot felt horrible and ended up driving back to retrieve it, but the fact remains I flew a leg without my required docs. Would y'all fill out a NASA report over this? Thankfully I wasn't ramped.


No. But go ahead if if gives you peace of mind. No one can prove you didn't have your certificate with you, unless you put it in writing....
 
Cirrus will.

They have an emergency cert generator.
You click a button if you need it and it links to the airmen database, gathers your data and generates a new cert.

I believe you can swipe your credit card, and using your heat signature, it will take a quick snapshot of your vital signs and renew your medical.


Only in the 22GT was that an option. Is was copackaged with crackers and caviar button.
 
No. But go ahead if if gives you peace of mind. No one can prove you didn't have your certificate with you, unless you put it in writing....


Or on apublic forum like POA :)
 
flew part 135 in. Dropped off the pax and the FO mistakenly offloaded my bag into the pax car. Inside was my medical and license. We did a short repo (50nm'ish) and put the plane to bed to go to hotel. That's when the missing bag was discovered.

CoPilot felt horrible and ended up driving back to retrieve it, but the fact remains I flew a leg without my required docs. Would y'all fill out a NASA report over this? Thankfully I wasn't ramped.

Drop it, it never happened.
 
I'm reporting you to the FAA and DHS. You pose an unacceptable risk to national security.

:yikes:



:rolleyes2:
 
I don't see how an authority could possibly really take a forum post and use it against you.

If so I am in trouble for flying on acid with Gary Coleman and a bear.
 
No. But go ahead if if gives you peace of mind. No one can prove you didn't have your certificate with you, unless you put it in writing....

Putting it in writing doesn't prove a thing. He isn't under oath and he isn't talking to a federal agent (directly).
 
No need. I am sure you are one of many pilots each year that have flown without their license and medical. It happens.

What would be the point of filing a NASA form?
 
You keep your license and medical in a bag?

Most every working pilot I know keeps that stuff in his wallet.

I have this thing I do before I get in the plane, probably looks like I'm making the sign of the cross or something, I feel for my wallet, personal cell and company cell. I also keep my headset on our paperwork so I can't forget it.

Having your certs in a carry on seems to be asking for it.

Agree with the others, forgedaboutit
 
I don't see how an authority could possibly really take a forum post and use it against you.

If so I am in trouble for flying on acid with Gary Coleman and a bear.

I'm a little more troubled by Gary Coleman. He died a few years ago.
 
Putting it in writing doesn't prove a thing. He isn't under oath and he isn't talking to a federal agent (directly).

Yeah cuz nobody here EVER stretches the truth or tells fibs. :rofl:
 
As much BS as I post on this forum I could give a detailed account of flying high on meth with dates, times, tail numbers, flight aware track and a video and it wouldn't hold up.
 
You can call the FSDO, and let them know,since before the post you where the only one with that info.
 
The truth of the matter is is completely irrelevant what Captain writes. "Captain" is a fictional character. The FAA can't implicate the individual using the handle "Captain" for admitting to a violation any more than they can charge Charles Shultz with operating an unregistered, non-certificated doghouse in civil airspace.
 
I don't see how an authority could possibly really take a forum post and use it against you.

If so I am in trouble for flying on acid with Gary Coleman and a bear.

Now I know you're lying. Gary Coleman is afraid of flying... Saw an interview once... something about heights?!?!
 
Ah Captain, does that make you an undocumented worker?
 
I don't see how an authority could possibly really take a forum post and use it against you.

If so I am in trouble for flying on acid with Gary Coleman and a bear.

Was Gary in a booster seat or just some form of a "seat cushion"? May be the diff between letting the bear slide as cargo or not.
 
As much BS as I post on this forum I could give a detailed account of flying high on meth with dates, times, tail numbers, flight aware track and a video and it wouldn't hold up.

Pictures of your dates or it didn't happen.
 
Pictures of your dates or it didn't happen.
Perv stalking again...?

Was Gary in a booster seat or just some form of a "seat cushion"? May be the diff between letting the bear slide as cargo or not.
Gary was sitting on the Bear's lap.

any more than they can charge Charles Shultz with operating an unregistered, non-certificated doghouse in civil airspace.
It was an experimental.
 
I don't see how an authority could possibly really take a forum post and use it against you.

If so I am in trouble for flying on acid with Gary Coleman and a bear.

Only if the bear's weight wasn't calculated properly for the W/B:D
 
The real answer to questions like these is to NOT ASK, do not publicly broadcast "hey everyone I broke the rules, here's how, here's when, what should I do?" Keep it to yourself and you'll never get caught
 
Now I know you're lying. Gary Coleman is afraid of flying... Saw an interview once... something about heights?!?!

I'll have to dig up the thread.
Here is the photographic proof

We had a zombie too. It was a mess.

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If you ever do lose or otherwise become separated from your wallet, you can immediately download a letter from the Airman Registry that will serve as a substitute for your pilot/flight instructor/medical certificates until a new set can be ordered and delivered.

Requesting Temporary Authority to Exercise Certificate Privileges Online
You may request temporary authority to exercise certificate privileges of a valid airman and/or medical certificate or verification of an expired flight instructor certificate in the form of a facsimile (FAX) or e-mail. This authority will be valid for 60 days pending receipt of a permanent replacement certificate or reinstatement of an expired flight instructor certificate. Only one (1) on-line request for temporary authority can be obtained within any six (6) month period.
Just go to this web page, select "Request Temporary Authority," log in, and you can get an immediate email of a .pdf copy of a letter which looks like this:
[FAA Letterhead]

MARCH 24, 2012


[NAME]
[ADDRESS]



OUR RECORDS SHOW YOU HOLD AIRLINE TRANSPORT PILOT CERTIFICATE 123456 WITH RATINGS AIRPLANE SINGLE AND MULTIENGINE LAND, ROTORCRAFT-HELICOPTER, ENGLISH PROFICIENT, ISSUED mm/dd/yyyy.


FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR CERTIFICATE 003012004CFI WITH RATINGS AIRPLANE SINGLE AND MULTIENGINE, ROTORCRAFT-HELICOPTER, INSTRUMENT AIRPLANE AND HELICOPTER, VALID ONLY WHEN ACCOMPANIED BY PILOT CERTIFICATE NUMBER 1234567, ISSUED mm/dd/yyyy, AND EXPIRES mm/dd/yyyy.


SECOND CLASS MEDICAL DATED mm/dd/yyyy; MUST HAVE AVAILABLE GLASSES FOR NEAR VISION.


THIS TEMPORARY AUTHORITY TO EXERCISE THE PRIVILEGES OF YOUR CERTIFICATE(S) EXPIRES ON MAY 23, 2012.


...which you can print and present. According to AFS-810, this provides legal, temporary authority to fly (see "other documentation acceptable to the FAA") if you don't have your original certificates with you. There is not currently any specific guidance to field Inspectors about this, but it's on AFS-810's list of things to do, and any Inspector with questions should know how to contact AFS-810 for futher guidance.​

So, if you have a computer and internet access, you can instantly have a valid document to cover the 61.3 requirement for pilot, flight instructor, and medical certificates in the event you left your wallet in your other pocket, or your dog ate your medical, or whatever. Just don't let your dog near your wallet more than once every six months.​
 
NASA cares about safety issues that people can learn from. Not stupid co-pilots...
 
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