Do you think the pilots reported this?

how does anyone do the freebasing thing? Someone set a fire in the cabin, and the -3 heater is not known for failures like this. Some one is trying to save the reputation of Ricky.
Doubt it, I don't think anyone denies Ricky did lots of drugs. No one wants to believe our airplanes can burn up on us, so it is nice to blame freebasing musicians. Just as any random crash will be blamed on some other pilots stereotypical bad judgement that none of us posses.
 
from your reference

Federal investigators said they could not determine conclusively the cause of the blaze, which filled the cabin and cockpit with smoke, but added that a likely source was a heater that reportedly had caused problems during the flight.

how does anyone do the freebasing thing? Someone set a fire in the cabin, and the -3 heater is not known for failures like this. Some one is trying to save the reputation of Ricky.
Are you that stubborn that you can't admit you are perpetuating a rumor?

Try reading the full report:
http://libraryonline.erau.edu/online-full-text/ntsb/aircraft-accident-summaries/AAR87-02S.pdf (Nelson DC-3 starts on page 29).

From the report:
Although the fuselage was
virtually destroyed by the ground fire, the most severe damage
was concentrated on the right side of the aft fuselage above and
below the cabin floor. The cabin heater is located in this area.
The heater was examined in place and then was removed for

While it could not be established that the fire originated
in the cabin heater, there is no doubt that the fire did
originate in the area of the heater. If the copilot's statement
about the repeated attempts to relight the cabin heater are
accurate, then the captain's repeated attempts to trouble-shoot
and relight the heater apparently resulted in a fire in the area
of the heater.

FYI, the heater the NTSB is refering to as the likely cause was not the standard DC-3 avgas-fed heater located behind the co-pilot. It was an added heater on the right side aft cabin.

I seriously doubt the NTSB gave a rat's behind about the reputation of a has-been rock star.
 
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An interesting development...

http://us.cnn.com/2014/02/05/showbiz/justin-bieber-marijuana-flight/index.html

Source: Justin Bieber, dad ignored pilot's demand to put pot away
By Susan Candiotti and Alan Duke
updated 5:00 PM EST, Wed February 5, 2014

New York (CNN) -- Justin Bieber and his father allegedly refused a pilot's warning to stop smoking pot during a flight from Canada to New Jersey on Friday, according to a law enforcement source.

A law enforcement official gave details to CNN about what the flight crew on the chartered jet told federal officials after they ferried Bieber and his entourage from Canada to New Jersey's Teterboro Airport on Friday. The official asked not to be identified.

Marijuana smoke was so strong in the jet's cabin that the flight crew put on oxygen masks because they were concerned they might inhale so much it would cause them to test positive for drug use, said the source.

The pilots repeatedly asked the pop star, his father, Jeremy Bieber, and other passengers to put away marijuana during the flight, according to the source. The pilot said the singer and his father were verbally abusive to the flight crew. This prompted the pilot to have the flight attendant stay close to the cockpit to avoid contact with Bieber as much as possible, the source said.

Bieber and his entourage of 10 were granted re-entry into the United States after a search of the chartered plane by federal officials, who said they detected an odor of marijuana after it landed at New Jersey's Teterboro Airport, a law enforcement official told CNN.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection officers said they detected the odor, which prompted the search using drug-sniffing dogs, the source said.

Bieber, a Canadian citizen living in the United States on a work visa, was detained by border agents for several hours of questioning. The interview is routinely conducted to ensure people entering the country are in compliance with U.S. law, another law enforcement source said.

A Customs and Border Protection spokesman declined comment, citing privacy requirements involving the questioning of people applying to enter the United States.

Bieber rep Matt Hiltzik declined comment to CNN.

Bieber, 19, was arrested last week in Toronto, accused of assaulting his limousine driver in December.

He also faces charges of drunken driving, resisting arrest and driving on an expired license after being stopped by police in Miami Beach, Florida, last month.

The Los Angeles County district attorney is considering whether to charge Bieber with felony vandalism in the egging of his neighbor's house on January 9, 2014.
 
That news story appears to be based on a single source, with no confirmation. But it sounds believable.

Why should the boy still have a work visa, I wonder?
 
Who are these charter pilots? High end charter work should involve some discretion.
 
On another thread discussing this (maybe on Jetcareers, I don't remember) somebody suggested that the right response would be to land at the nearest airport or return to the departure airport. Given that this was an international flight of less than one hour I think US Customs/DHS generally frown on suddenly landing at the nearest upstate NY airport if the reason is a dubious "smoke in the cockpit" and not a real emergency. Continuing to land at the intended where customs is already waiting and expecting you seems like the right response. Customs is going to want to check on the plane anyway, let them deal with it.
 
There's something strange about the whole story. There were clouds of smoke in the airplane yet the search didn't find anything? They supposedly even brought dogs in according to the one story.
 
There's something strange about the whole story. There were clouds of smoke in the airplane yet the search didn't find anything? They supposedly even brought dogs in according to the one story.

Smoke it up before you land.:rolleyes:
 
There's something strange about the whole story. There were clouds of smoke in the airplane yet the search didn't find anything? They supposedly even brought dogs in according to the one story.

Maybe they tossed it in the little blue lake and flushed.

I suppose the pilots contacted company dispatch for instructions on how to proceed, I certainly wouldn't want responsibility in that situation.
 
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Maybe they tossed it in the little blue lake and flushed.
It would have still been in the waste water. It doesn't get dumped overboard on people's heads. :D
 
There's something strange about the whole story. There were clouds of smoke in the airplane yet the search didn't find anything? They supposedly even brought dogs in according to the one story.

Smoke it up before you land.:rolleyes:

You could kill it all pretty quickly by just splitting it up and eating it. I would suspect their tolerance is probably pretty high.
 
You could kill it all pretty quickly by just splitting it up and eating it. I would suspect their tolerance is probably pretty high.

Eating raw pot doesn't get you high, it needs to be heated first.
 
So the heat of baking them into brownies does the trick?

Yeah, but it makes nasty brownies, better to make mole butter instead. Take a couple of sticks of butter and boil down the weed in it then strain out the residue. All the THC will have migrated to the butter basically as hash oil, now bake your cookies or brownies using the butter. Much better texture.:D
 
Putting heat to THC destroys it. Eating it, without heating it, and its MORE potent.
 
Lot less hassle without being narced out by the crew.
True...for sure but in this case..the place smelled like a hookah lounge...he should have torched before launch...and then after...

For having a ton of dough...this kid has zero smooth...
 
True...for sure but in this case..the place smelled like a hookah lounge...he should have torched before launch...and then after...

For having a ton of dough...this kid has zero smooth...

Smoke a cigarette before you land. A pressurized plane a lot of air flow/circulation. Hard to make a pressurized jet look like Spicoli's van.;)
 
With all the ways they have to smoke this today why in the yeck would they smoke a Joint.
A vaporizer keeps it all in a bag, no smoke leaves this bag. If you hold it " in " long enough like they taught you in " EASY RIDER " no smoke comes out. No smoke comes out because its more of a vapor. It never burns the weed,pot whatever you call it.

Justin needs to stop hanging with his old school father....

Tony
 
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Let's start a Bieber pool: Month he goes into rehab or months until he assumes room temperature? :rolleyes:
 
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