shyampatel94
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Shyam Patel
What is the difference in operating costs, maintenance cost, fuel cost? Which is cheaper to operate? Pros and Cons for both?
Shyam, you have asked a lot of question about several different planes. If you tell us your skill level and mission perhaps we can give you a bit more specific direction.
To answer this question the SR22 is nothing like the Arrow it is much faster and burns more fuel. The SR 20 a fixed gear plane is about 140 kts vs. the 135kts for the Arrow which is a retract. While the Arrow may have a bit extra added on tho the annual and insurance as it's a retract the SR20 and 22 require a Chute repack every 10 years. The current cost of the repack is about 10K, which is likely more than you will pay for both the insurance and gear swing on the Arrow.
They are both good aircraft.
5kts is "much faster" ??
Used to fly a PA28RT Arrow IV, she indicated out right at 140, few minor speed mods.
I go Arrow before I went cirrus, more plane for the money, but I'd get a PA24 before an arrow.
Besides cost, a big difference between the planes is that the Cirrus feels modern, and the Piper feels, well, "classic" in comparison. The other biggie is the parachute; using the parachute, my non-pilot wife can, with near certainty safely land a Cirrus in a forest, with a 100' overcast & 1/4 mile visibility, at night. There's something to be said for that too.
Niether of them are multi-engine aircraft, which is to say, their maintenance and operating cost differentials are frankly immaterial. Rounding errors in fact.
I was surprised to hear someone say the annual cost on a Cirrus is near the same as an Arrow.
There is a person that has a business managing Mx costs for owners and his prime customers are Cirrus owners.
What are the annuals running for you Cirrus owners out there?
Great aircraft but definitely out of my price range.
I was surprised to hear someone say the annual cost on a Cirrus is near the same as an Arrow.
There is a person that has a business managing Mx costs for owners and his prime customers are Cirrus owners.
What are the annuals running for you Cirrus owners out there?
Great aircraft but definitely out of my price range.
Could that be because folks that spend the acquisition cost for a Cirrus are more likely to hire a maintenance management company than those buying cheaper to acquire aircraft?
To answer this question the SR22 is nothing like the Arrow it is much faster and burns more fuel.
Shyam, you have asked a lot of question about several different planes. If you tell us your skill level and mission perhaps we can give you a bit more specific direction.
(and even Henning and some other notables here were like this at one time)
5kts is "much faster" ??
Used to fly a PA28RT Arrow IV, she indicated out right at 140, few minor speed mods.
I go Arrow before I went cirrus, more plane for the money, but I'd get a PA24 before an arrow.
5kts is "much faster" ??
Used to fly a PA28RT Arrow IV, she indicated out right at 140, few minor speed mods.
I go Arrow before I went cirrus, more plane for the money, but I'd get a PA24 before an arrow.
Well, to keep that in perspective...
It's possible that for any given trip length, the SR22 might actually burn less fuel.
I have previously owned a Grumman Tiger and an SR22.
On a given trip from S FL to N GA, the Tiger would take about 5 hours @ about 10gph and 132k and burn about 50 gals. Since it held 50 gals, with very rare exceptions it made a fuel stop mandatory.
Same trip in the SR22 would take about 3.5 hours @ about 13.5gph and 170k and burn about 47 gals. Since it held 81 gals (IIRC), no fuel stop was necessary.
All this is credit to the efficiency of the SR22, since the Tiger is no slouch in that department either.
In my experience, however, the Cirrus would be much more expensive to maintain than the Arrow. And insurance costs are likely to be higher as well.
Due to those costs, I sold my Cirrus and bought a Light Sport Sky Arrow, which I'm loving.
First post, BTW. Hello all!
So you're telling me a 150 and a Pilatus have maintenance and operating costs differentials that are rounding errors?
Henning never! At five he built his own glider out of bed sheets and tent poles. Self launched off his parents roof and sprayed the lawn for dollar weed using a modified backpack sprayer.
Shoot Henning didn't even need a CFI to learn how to fly.
You sure you're not talking about Chuck Norris?
Shoot Henning didn't even need a CFI to learn how to fly.
First welcome to Pilots of America! Nice to have you here!
Second, you bring up some very valid points, but I think they apply to XC travel. If your the type of weekend flyer who flies for $100 hamburgers and to bore holes in the sky an hour of flying is an hour of flying.
First thing I (and my buddy) flew was an Eipper Quicksilver with a 25hp Chrysler, $2500 new (assembly required) learned out of the manual, no room on a single seat ultralight for a CFI. Lots of people taught themselves in ultralights, all the way back to the Wrights.
Thanks!
Point taken.
When I fly my Sky Arrow now, I figure it costs me about $20 an hour. That's for 5 gals of ethanol-free mogas at about $4 each.
And it usually concerns me little how far or fast I can go.
Lord knows, with insurance and hangar and maintenance, it actually costs far more than that on an hourly basis.
But we don't have to think about that, do we?
Do you miss the XC travel?.
What is the difference in operating costs, maintenance cost, fuel cost? Which is cheaper to operate? Pros and Cons for both?
So you transitioned quick to your first plane?
Do you miss the XC travel?
As for your wife, it's just a parachute man, carefull with that false sense of saftey
Just ask this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf8DYXUOai8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
There have currently been 37 successful Cirrus parachute landings, with 77 survivors, and you point to a single case where the plane caught fire on the way down as evidence of my "false sense of security"? Brilliant, sir. Thanks for waking me up!