iPad vs. Nexus 7

Mafoo said:
Every cable in my house, came from Monoprice. I love that site.
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I have a bunch of HDMI cables from them that are very low priced but other cables don't seem to offer much of a savings over local stores.

Cheers
 
X3 Skier said:
I have a bunch of HDMI cables from them that are very low priced but other cables don't seem to offer much of a savings over local stores.

Cheers
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Clearly you haven't shopped ethernet patch cables.
 
My Nexus 7, 32GB with Mobile Data shipped today!! Looks like Tuesday I should have it in my hands!
 
New member, I've enjoyed reading this thread..how are you guys liking the Nexus 7 after flying with it for awhile? I rarely leave Florida..so the 16gb model at $199 is pretty compelling.
 
wickedsprint said:
New member, I've enjoyed reading this thread..how are you guys liking the Nexus 7 after flying with it for awhile? I rarely leave Florida..so the 16gb model at $199 is pretty compelling.
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I enjoy mine, though I mostly only use it just for route recording (Naviator exported to Google Earth) and checking to make sure my Pilotage is on the ball (Garmin Pilot).
 
Just received mine yesterday,.... Wow,.. very nice! After some initial setup, I'm very pleased with my purchase. Won't be running aviation software on it anytime soon (not flying right now) but seems like Garmin Pilot is the way to go with the Android system.
 
roddie said:
I enjoy mine, though I mostly only use it just for route recording (Naviator exported to Google Earth) and checking to make sure my Pilotage is on the ball (Garmin Pilot).
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Ahh cool. I'm still on the fence, I'd like to use it to go paperless, we'll see.
 
wickedsprint said:
New member, I've enjoyed reading this thread..how are you guys liking the Nexus 7 after flying with it for awhile? I rarely leave Florida..so the 16gb model at $199 is pretty compelling.
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I love mine, as do the five students and friends who've bought them. Another is going to get his tonight after using mine today.
 
LDJones said:
I haven't carried paper for almost a year and a half. Don't miss it, either.
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Have you ever posted a rundown of the apps you use?

I'm a newbie pilot starting from scratch, and it's really hard to find a comprehensive comparison of all the different applications.
 
I love ForeFlight....best UI out there, and use it for weather and preflight planning. But I use my a Nexus and Garmin Pilot most in the cockpit due to convenient size and great GPS.

Other apps: a=android, i=iPad, b=both

AirReport Pro a
FlyQ b
Aircraft Lookup a
Nav Trainer b. (great for teaching)
Hold Trainer b
RadarNow a
Aviation W&B I
LogbookPro b
Flight tools E6B a
Flight plan Mobile b (not used much)
Aviation Weather from Appventiv a
Quick Notes (Jon Blackwell) a. Great scratchpad
Ultrachron stopwatch a
X-Plane !! A
NavFree USA (car use) a
Multiple stopwatch timer (yink) a (tracking flight time, teaching time)
CFI Tools x-wind calculator (teaching tool) b?

Lots of stuff out there.
 
LDJones said:
I love mine, as do the five students and friends who've bought them. Another is going to get his tonight after using mine today.
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Hey thanks. Im a ppl fixed guy looking to start Heli training soon and the smaller size seems better once im allowed to carry it. It will mostly be a preflight aid until I get the schools blessing to use inflight.
 
wickedsprint said:
Hey thanks. Im a ppl fixed guy looking to start Heli training soon and the smaller size seems better once im allowed to carry it. It will mostly be a preflight aid until I get the schools blessing to use inflight.
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The first friend to buy one is a heli instructor. Saw mine the day I got it and he had one the next day. He'd admired the iPad but said it was way to big for the 300Cs we use in our flight school.

Enjoy!
 
LDJones said:
I love ForeFlight....best UI out there, and use it for weather and preflight planning. But I use my a Nexus and Garmin Pilot most in the cockpit due to convenient size and great GPS.

Other apps: a=android, i=iPad, b=both

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X-Plane !! A
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Waitaminute... X-plane is on iOS too. Or is this just which of your own devices you have the apps on?
 
FYI, since upgrading my Nexus OS all the chargers and cords that previously would not indicate a charge was taking place now do. Obviously the hardware hasn't changed so must have been a software issue. In any case, it's nice to not have to use something unique just for it.
 
LDJones said:
FYI, since upgrading my Nexus OS all the chargers and cords that previously would not indicate a charge was taking place now do. Obviously the hardware hasn't changed so must have been a software issue. In any case, it's nice to not have to use something unique just for it.
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Wait, what? The unit now pulls a full 2 amp charge when plugged into any cigar lighter charger? Or what?

I've never found a cord that would not indicate a charge on the N7. In fact, it was the other way around -- the N7 would indicate it was charging, but then would not pull the full 2 amp job, defaulting to the 0.5 amp USB charge instead. This was insufficient to keep up with demand while running Garmin Pilot and bluetooth, and the unit would discharge even when plugged in.

So this is fixed? Or are you talking about something else?
 
Jay Honeck said:
Wait, what? The unit now pulls a full 2 amp charge when plugged into any cigar lighter charger? Or what?

I've never found a cord that would not indicate a charge on the N7. In fact, it was the other way around -- the N7 would indicate it was charging, but then would not pull the full 2 amp job, defaulting to the 0.5 amp USB charge instead. This was insufficient to keep up with demand while running Garmin Pilot and bluetooth, and the unit would discharge even when plugged in.

So this is fixed? Or are you talking about something else?
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Mine would not indicate ANY charge using any of my stock of phone or iPad chargers, whether 110v or 12v. I had to shop around for those special combo 110v/12v chargers from Sprint that would work with it.

Last night, I accidentally plugged my phone charger into it, and noticed it was charging! So I tested my iPad charger, and it worked, too!

So they must have changed something. None of these would indicate a charge before. Now, I've read that they actually WERE charging, but that it would not indicate a charge. I never tested that theory since if I needed a charge I wanted it charged! So maybe it's just a display fix. But either way, the good news is it now charges like any other mini-USB-equipped device from all the standard chargers.
 
I'm with Jay.

As I understand it - the charging circuitry is built into the Li-Ion battery itself, and as long as you give it 5V DC it will take whatever current the supply will provide, up to the limit of the charging circuitry on the battery (and I think the max draw is 2.1A)

Now, depending on the current the charger can provide, your charge time may vary, and your battery may still discharge if the current out to the tablet is greater than the current in from the charger.

If I turn my Nexus off I can plug in any old USB charger and the unit will eventually reach a full charge. But if I'm actively using it, I may still see battery life decreasing if I'm not using a 2.1A charger.

Now, what may have changed in 4.2 is that the Android software that talks to the battery may have changed so that it indicates "charging" when the battery is seeing 5V on the input, regardless of whether the battery charge level is actually increasing.
 
TMetzinger said:
I'm with Jay.

As I understand it - the charging circuitry is built into the Li-Ion battery itself, and as long as you give it 5V DC it will take whatever current the supply will provide, up to the limit of the charging circuitry on the battery (and I think the max draw is 2.1A)

Now, depending on the current the charger can provide, your charge time may vary, and your battery may still discharge if the current out to the tablet is greater than the current in from the charger.

If I turn my Nexus off I can plug in any old USB charger and the unit will eventually reach a full charge. But if I'm actively using it, I may still see battery life decreasing if I'm not using a 2.1A charger.

Now, what may have changed in 4.2 is that the Android software that talks to the battery may have changed so that it indicates "charging" when the battery is seeing 5V on the input, regardless of whether the battery charge level is actually increasing.
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Yes, I understand the differing charge rates based on amperage. The point is, it would act as if it didn't recognize ANY charger, whether .5 amp, 1 amp or 2.1 amp before. It was as if it was never plugged in. That was true of five different chargers, all of which worked fine with my phones and iPad. It seemed odd to be that Nexus could be proprietary on the chargers. That's what led to the long discussion of chargers in this thread.

Since upgrading to 4.2, that issue has gone away, and now behaves the way I had originally expected it to behave.
 
LDJones said:
Yes, I understand the differing charge rates based on amperage. The point is, it would act as if it didn't recognize ANY charger, whether .5 amp, 1 amp or 2.1 amp before. It was as if it was never plugged in. That was true of five different chargers, all of which worked fine with my phones and iPad. It seemed odd to be that Nexus could be proprietary on the chargers. That's what led to the long discussion of chargers in this thread.

Since upgrading to 4.2, that issue has gone away, and now behaves the way I had originally expected it to behave.
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Huh. I have to say I never saw that prior to 4.2 Any time I gave it 5V, whether from a PC, a USB hub, or the wall charger, I got a charge indicator.

But perhaps the 4.2 update came with new firmware too.
 
TMetzinger said:
Huh. I have to say I never saw that prior to 4.2 Any time I gave it 5V, whether from a PC, a USB hub, or the wall charger, I got a charge indicator.

But perhaps the 4.2 update came with new firmware too.
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Same here. My N7 always indicated that it was charging, using any charge cord in the house.

Sent from my Nexus 7
 
I'm ordering one, the 32G WiFi.

Any accessories that are useful? Case maybe? Anything else?
 
Matthew said:
I'm ordering one, the 32G WiFi.

Any accessories that are useful? Case maybe? Anything else?
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I have a leather case from i-Blason. I like it. What I WANT is a similar case with a small paper notepad. I haven't found a way to take notes on the nexus 7 yet in a way that is comparable to paper. Unlike my Toshiba tablet, there is no fine point writing instrument for the nexus that I've found.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
 
Matthew said:
I'm ordering one, the 32G WiFi.

Any accessories that are useful? Case maybe? Anything else?
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I keep mine gorgeously naked. Not even a screen protector to mar the tactile experience Asus worked so hard to achieve.

My wife and daughter use cases on theirs, mostly for fashion, methinks. My daughter's has a seldom-used Bluetooth keyboard built in

I have a charge dock for mine that puts the unit in portrait orientation sitting atop a micro-USB plug. This is not optimal, but it's better than nothing while we impatiently await the long-anticipated landscape charger that will use the 4-pin contacts on the side of the unit.

Why ASUS (or anyone else) hasn't introduced this after 4 months is anyone's guess.

Sent from my Nexus 7
 
I expect to be carrying this around in place of my paper-based day planner/calendar. A case so I can toss it around on my desk, or a briefcase, or backpack, or flightbag would be nice (I think.) Ideally, I'd just carry this by itself, with no briefcase to have to lug around. But, I also expect to be using it in flight, and the idea would be to have something small and compact without a case getting in the way.

Tim - I saw that i-Blason has a couple different case styles. Which one do you have? Edit - I just looked a little closer at the i-Blason website and see that they only make one case in leather. edit again - but now I see on Amazon that they DO make other cases in leather...
http://www.amazon.com/i-Blason-Detachable-Landscape-Portrait-View-Black/dp/B008GFVF3M
 
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I have this case:
http://www.amazon.com/i-BLASON-Goog...id=1353690150&sr=1-4&keywords=iblason+nexus+7

But mine didn't come with a stylus. I just ordered the PenGo Pen/Stylus combo as it has a 6mm hard rubber tip which I'm hoping will give me more of what I'm looking for.

I like the case you showed but I don't want the rotating components...

I think what I may need in the cockpit is something like this http://www.sportys.com/PilotShop/product/15935 for the 7" form factor.

I may also just look at some notepads and see if I can find one that would let me attach the Nexus on the left side.

Edit: http://www.zsxiaozhi.com/Google-Nexus-7-Tablet-with-Notepad-Folio-Case-in-Coffee-Leather_p_368.html

Perfect, except the $90.00 price tag.
 
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I carry mine naked, too, since it fits nicely in a cargo pants pocket or coat breast pocket without a case. If I found a thin enough neoprene sheath I would consider that option.
 
And finally, a real-life side-by-side comparison.

iPad Mini vs Kindle Fire HD vs Nexus 7 :D

 
Well, my nexus 7 may have been charging with a iPod charger, but it didn't indicate that it was.

After downloading the last system update, it does indicate it is charging.
 
tinerj said:
Well, my nexus 7 may have been charging with a iPod charger, but it didn't indicate that it was.

After downloading the last system update, it does indicate it is charging.
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Bingo! Same issue I had.
 
ElPaso Pilot said:
And finally, a real-life side-by-side comparison.

iPad Mini vs Kindle Fire HD vs Nexus 7 :D

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Heh... I wonder how much cheaper Blendtec blenders would be if they didn't spend so much of their profits destroying expensive stuff? Ah well, it's worth it. Kinda like how I don't mind my entire tax bill going towards an F-16 go-around, as long as I get to watch. :D

Looks like the Kindle Fire HD was reduced to powder pretty quick, while the iPad had the biggest pieces for longest... But they're all reduced to powder! I sure wouldn't want to be the host, breathing in gadget-powder all the time, that can't be good for you!
 
Jay Honeck said:
Wait, what? The unit now pulls a full 2 amp charge when plugged into any cigar lighter charger? Or what?

I've never found a cord that would not indicate a charge on the N7. In fact, it was the other way around -- the N7 would indicate it was charging, but then would not pull the full 2 amp job, defaulting to the 0.5 amp USB charge instead. This was insufficient to keep up with demand while running Garmin Pilot and bluetooth, and the unit would discharge even when plugged in.

So this is fixed? Or are you talking about something else?
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No, it just doesn't signal the degraded charge at all now, still gonna be the same slow charge with a low power charger.
 
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