Why don’t you fly rotor wing?

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  1. BladeSlap

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    So I’ve been here for a little while now, got to ask, for a short range burger hop wouldn’t a R22/44 be much more fun?

    Plus we have much more options with some of the rules and landings, where we can put down if we need to, etc
     
  2. eman1200

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    more money, more training, more money, less rental options, more money, higher insurance, more money......
     
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    Good summary.
     
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    And it's more expensive.
     
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    Helicopters are weird, man.
     
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    We are weird, and we dig that
     
  7. MooneyDriver78

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    Too slow, short range…I don’t do short trips, mine tend to run 500nm+.
     
  8. Salty

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    Subsidize me and I’d do it in a second.
     
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    They have their place. I'm alive today because of them.
     
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    Lots of vintage airplane fly ins. Not too many vintage helo fly ins….
     
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    I believe you are eligible for Vintage Parking if your rotorcraft was built before 2018.
     
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    Speaking of fly ins, what’s the rules of us participating in spot landing contests?
     
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  13. Bell206

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    Probably because I always thought it took a challenged individual to fly a Robbie. Most plank-wing guys are pretty mainstream and upstanding individuals.:)
    Mostly because those "vintage" helicopters are still working for a living.
     
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    this
    + I don't have enough money....

    I have always wanted to fly helicopters more than I have planes. The idea of picking your landing spot down to the rock you want to land next to seems cool..... Just not realistic.
    A part of me day dreams about flying gyros for sport, but kind of seem like a helicopter with a lot of the flaws of a fixed wing+ all the regulatory limitations on them make them less appealing.

    + not enough money
     
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    Helicopters are the only thing I've ever seen that made airplanes look like a bargain in comparison.
     
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    If your talking about H-1s, maybe.

    But how many early Sikorskys from the 40s and 50s do you see flying today?
     
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    I wanna gyroplane
     
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    Around 100 in the US alone (55/58/61). Most still working. Plus there's over 500 Bell 47s still flying for a living also.
     
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    You don’t have much experience with women then.
     
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    These excuses, meh

    How many have at least have a intro flight in a helicopter?
     
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    I have about 2.5 hours. I wanted to learn to hover for the satisfaction of doing it. Cruise flying didn’t seem much different than airplanes so I stuck to the challenging part. My instructor thought I was nuts doing nothing but the “hard” stuff, but I figured it out fairly quickly. I have hundreds of hours in RC helis, real ones, not quads, so I knew how to do it already in theory, just had to get the hang of the real thing. Pretty sure that knocked 5 or 10 hours off the time to learn.
     
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    I just learned last night the rotor actually flaps. That sort of blew my mind.
     
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    I would take rotor lessons, especially after hearing a really good presentation at OSH a couple of years ago by Philip Greenspun, describing the instruction, from the perspective of a fixed-wing pilot.

    However, no rotor instruction is offered near me.

    Fixed-wing instruction is much easier to find in less urban areas.
     
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    They lead/lag too.
     
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    I have a little over 100 hours. I got hooked on an intro flight. Thought briefly about changing careers from fixed wing, but I already had a lot of fixed wing hours and helicopter jobs require time in category. Fixed wing time basically doesn't count.
     
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    Seems if you have 1k to 1.5k helicopter you’re golden
     
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    <<<< I had 4 years of R-C helo time:heli:
     
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    1) expensive
    2) not sure what I’d do with the rating after I got it
    3) I know just enough about them to be scared
     
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    Even horse women can’t touch chopper munny
     
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    FYI: all main rotor blades flap, feather, lead, and lag. How they perform each depends on the type rotor hub/system.
     
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    Yeahbut there's getting from 100 hours to 1000. And I was already pretty established in the fixed wing world. I probably had about 4000 hours at the time. I'm glad I got the experience, though.
     
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    Or horses.

    Or worst of all, women with horses.
     
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    Tours or CFI?
     
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    Too much money

    Good for a specific mission.
     
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    Simple. When you let go of the controls of an airplane, it still wants to fly. When you let go of the controls of a helicopter, it wants to kill you.

    I used to say "wants to crash", but was corrected by a UH-60 pilot while he was "trying to get the other stupid engine to start" during one of the tropical storm responses.
     
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    I was already past that point in my life of wanting to build time, especially since I was already established in the fixed wing world. Maybe in another life.
     
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    I'm merely a student pilot (with a lifelong love of/fascination for aviation). I know I don't need to go through the helo parts of the ground school (ASA, in my case) material, but I figured it would be good to know. Flapping, feathering, lead/lag, that whole section gave me a certain appreciation for helos. I do think it'd be cool to be able to zip around in a BK-117, but, man, those costs.

    I dated a horse chick for a while in high school. Which was a long, long time ago. So. Many. Stories. I would summarize the entire experience by saying she had a much better appreciation for, and understanding of, the natural order of things than I did, at the time.
     
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    $$$ and, east of the Mississippi, landing restrictions. Going airport to airport is not the way to enjoy a helicopter.