When dreams come true... (long)

Discussion in 'Hangar Talk' started by LDJones, Feb 14, 2015.

  1. LDJones

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    It's hard to say for sure, but the first opportunity will be sometime next Spring to Summer. I have my bid in, but only for MSP, as I won't do the commuter thing. I'd rather stay a senior FO in base than commute as a Captain. Quality of Life trumps $$ at this stage of my life. But based on current movement I suspect I'll have a shot by next summer.

    The CRJ is definitely a fun airplane to fly. It took me close to 500 hours to start to feel like I was getting pretty good with it. Even at 1,000, I refuse to get cocky. I suspect it will be another 1,000 before it feels as comfortable as the Cherokee to me.
     
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    Hey, kids! Long time, no update. Life's been busy, but I'm still "livin' the dream!" :) Last year I ended up with about 765 hours in the jet and another 370 or so in GA flying of which about 350 was flight instructing....a busy year of flying.

    My bidding seniority is up to about 17% so I'm getting pretty much what I want for a schedule, including much more 700/900 flying. Those are so sweet...and such a pleasure to fly compared to the -200s (which I still enjoy!) Monday night I took the last leg to Nashville in a 900, then the first leg back to Minneapolis followed by the next leg to Pittsburg. I managed to grease all three landings (a personal best in that airplane!) despite the crosswind gusting to 25 in PIT.

    This month will mark my two-year anniversary since this adventure began. It's been an incredible two years. My class' seniority numbers are now being called for Captain upgrades. I probably would have been in last week's upgrade class if I was willing to be a commuter, but I've made the command decision that I'd rather be a senior FO living in base than a junior CA commuting to work. The increase in pay just isn't worth the hassle of commuting to work.

    I'm guessing by sometime late Spring or early Summer my slot in MSP will roll around. I have annual CQ (recurrent training) in May and I'd kind of prefer it to hit after that since that will keep me qualified as an FO for another year, which means during any downtime between upgrade training and IOE can pick up trips as an FO at CA pay times 1.5. That can be pretty sweet.
     
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    Congrats! I'm trying to break into instructing part-time but it's super cool to read about the upper echelon of flying. I've given up on my dreams of flying anything larger than a Arrow, but if I could do it all over again I would definitely give it a shot based on all the exciting experiences I've seen.

    Hope it keeps paying off and keep updating us!
     
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    Glad you're still enjoying it, man. And you made the right choice regarding QOL vs. pay, especially with a commute.
     
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    Someone asked me privately here, how old I was, after reading my instructor thread, and wondered whether age would stop them from doing stuff they wanted to do in aviation, recently @LDJones.

    I gave some of the reasons I'm chasing the instructor stuff only, but not chasing other forms of Commerical flying, at least for the time being, but told them to look up your thread as an example of how different the industry is now, vs any of the big downturn decades.

    It's cyclical, of course, but sometimes the cycle works for anyone at any age.

    Here's hoping that person goes and accomplishes whatever they desire. (I won't name them -- they asked privately so that would be rude. But I hope they've run across this thread.)
     
  6. LDJones

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    Pretty easy decision after watching more than half my Captains dealing with the pains of commuting. I get why they do it when they're settled where they are and the opportunity is elsewhere. Thankfully, that's not an issue for me. I enjoy the flying regardless of which seat I'm sitting in.
     
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    No question that this industry is timing, timing, timing. I still catch myself giggling sometimes when I realize what fell into my lap at age 57. Who knows, maybe it's sweeter BECAUSE it came later in life and I know there's not enough time for me to get jaded. But that's also why it's pretty easy to not chase the Captain upgrade before I can do it in my home domicile. 121 PIC is only important to those hoping to get to the majors sooner rather than later, a non-issue for me.

    I hope you enjoy instructing as much as I do. Still love it. Had my FIRST CFI candidate ever pass his checkride today....his MEI! He'll add the single shortly, I'm sure, but he had recently purchased a Baron and decided to do it in it.
     
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    I think I will. That is awesome. Congrats on the pass. I know it's as important to the instructor as it is the student!

    As you've probably seen from my thread, the whole thing seems to have come to a screeching halt. I'll post more about that later, but at least one of the delays requires me to contemplate the current schedule mess from a beach chair with a beer. First world problems. Ha. Life is good.
     
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    Glad you're keeping the thread going man!
     
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    I keep waiting to hear 'and first officer Jones' on my frequent hops with Skywest, but so far no luck.

    Glad to hear you are still enjoying it.
     
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    I can only recall two captains that actually acknowledge the FO by name in their announcements. When I upgrade I'll make a point to do that!
     
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    I always like it when the Captain adds ". . . who's flying this trip to XYZ . ." when appropriate to the PA. There are too many uninformed people in the back who think it's Capt. Psalty and some coffee chaser up front, vice PF and PNF.
     
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    Come to think of it, it's been a long time since I've heard either the captain or FO's names. Usually it's only the flight attendants who say who they are.
     
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    Well, if we say our name and you're back there, you might ban us! BOOM!
     
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    Especially if you make a bad landing. ;)
     
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    Fly enough legs with me and that's a guarantee! :D
     
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    I always make a point to refer to the FA(s) by name in the pre-takeoff announcement. We only have one on the -200 and two on the -700/900s so it's pretty easy to be personal.
     
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    I think only one has actually said that "First Officer Jones will be flying us to XYZ today."
     
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    I've never made a bad landing. We've walked away from every one! :D
     
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    The F9 flight I just got off of, whoever was PF wouldn't leave the rudder alone. (No it wasn't the yaw damper...)

    I'm nearly sliding sideways back and forth in my seat in 3C all the way forward, from the time they punched George off and started maneuvering, until final, and then touchdown, wondering what that felt like all the way in the back... thinking "nice PIO, sheesh... just leave it alone..."

    Greaser ... and of course my wife thought it was "great". LOL.

    The cliche's are true. As long as the pitch angle is right at touchdown, nobody notices anything else. Haha.

    Oh well. Mr. Happy Feet got us there in one piece and it didn't matter, but it was funny sitting there with my butt saying, "stop it!"
     
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    Do you announce 'two of Salt Lakes finest' :)

    Your captain may not mention your name, but the FAs frequently include names for both in the cockpit crew in their announcement along with the safety spiel. It's usually just last names (but who knows, they may just use the same two names on all flights and it is an inside joke with the cabin crews).
     
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    Great to hear from you. Keep it up.
    A story from back in the day:
    Dead heading back from SEA in a C-141. I talk to the pilot, and get invited to sit in the jump seat up front.
    From the minute we get off the ground the pilot and co-pilot take turns shoving the rudder back and forth, almost non-stop.
    So I ask if there is a problem.
    The co-pilot turns around with an evil grin and says "General NoBallsAtAll and his staff are in the last 4 rows of seats. He suffers from massive motion sickness, and I hate that M Fing son-of-a-bitch."
    The General (and a bunch of his staff) were sick all the way to Elmendorf.
     
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    And reused the airplane I expect.
     
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    I recall sitting in the back of an LH A-320 from St. Petersburg, RA to FRA that fishtailed all the way. Closest I've come to being airsick on an airliner. I was really glad to get off that plane in Frankfurt.
     
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    Is your name General NoballsAtAll?
     
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    Most of the time probably. :D
     
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    Only time I ever saw FO Jones he was just relaxing in a cabin seat ;)
     
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    Deadheading is a GOOD thing!
     
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    This is great! I hope to get to a point where I can stop practicing law and fly for a living. I think I would like to fly medevac helicopters.
     
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    Confined landing areas at night...
    With power lines at both ends...
    And some brand new deputy sheriff directing you to land...

    It'll be fun they said...

    :)
     
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    Well, compared to practicing law....

    ;):p
     
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    Million mile flyer with United. Plus a bunch of other airlines. Don't worry, I've been all over the place. That flight was not good (plus, I had just finished several days of meetings in St. Petersburg).
     
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    Glad to hear it Loren, and thanks for updating! Every time I hear someone ask if they should pursue their dream of flying for a living at age X, I always point them to this thread. You're a great example of not just having the dream, but living it!

    Now, if only I could take the pay cut and do it myself.
     
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    I've got a question after watching the movie Sully. Both Sully and his FO were captains but Jeff wore the three stripes of a FO on that flight. Is it common and/or airline policy that the Captain wears 4 and the FO wears 3 even though they both may be Captains?
     
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    FO Jones, sir!
    We are all going to show up for a flight some day.
    With score cards.
    "Lets she how the judges rate that takeoff: That's a good start, a 9.6 from Shep, 9.5 from Timbec. Ouch. That's going to hurt, An 8.7 from denverpilot. What do you think, mscard88?"
    "Well flyingcheeshead, I think it's more sourgrapes than a comment on the takeoff." Let's see what happens with the landing."
    "Right you are, mscard88. Let's go back to Ghery in the studio. Take it away Ghery."
     
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    Of course, it's fun when they misidentify the wires also. "Power lines are marked on both ends of the LZ with EMS vehicles parked below them. The middle is clear." About 50 ft up, in the middle of the LZ, you see telephone lines directly below your chin bubble! :(
     
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    Are you a captain yet?:)
     
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    Might have been here or might have been FB but I think he said he was putting off upgrading to hold the trips he liked, and wasn't in any hurry to change his schedule. Of course, stuff changes so he'll probably be along shortly to get us all up to date on that. :)
     
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    He better upgrade before I do! On track to upgrade in the winter like November or December.
     
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    Heh - he doesn't need the turbine PIC and he sure as hell doesn't need the money, so it's hard to blame him for not effing up his QOL!