Verifying runway crossing clearance

Discussion in 'Flight Following' started by Morne, Jun 30, 2012.

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Do you verify runway crossing clearance at towered airports?

  1. Yes, better safe than sorry

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  2. No, ground said I was clear once and that's enough

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  3. Towered airports suck

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  1. Sac Arrow

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    But, back on topic, my home field almost always clears me across one inactive, and tells me to hold short on the other inactive. I won't call ground up again unless they forgot I'm holding short at the other inactive.

    "8SA is holding short one seven"

    "0h, yeah, 8SA cross runway one seven"
     
  2. FlySince9

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    I thought the sarcasm was pretty clear, but evidently not... I guess some of the posters really have issues with yuppie kids with toy radios...and one thinks I really need to see a light signal or I won't know if I'm at a towered airport...:nonod:
     
  3. Larryo

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    Jnmeade,

    Fortunately, at O'Hare, one rarely has to cross a runway to get to their active, so pretty much a non issue... even when I flew my Bonanza in there.

    However, I have no problem verifying a crossing in any plane, at any airport, if there's the absolute slightest doubt. (and that's almost always the case).

    Sure, you can copy correctly, but the controller may have made a mistake, the radio could have been partially blocked... etc.

    There is NO downside in verifying, no matter how busy the airport is. And the busier, all the more reason to verify.
     
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    If you have to ask if you're cleared across its because either you see a conflict or you screwed up. It's okay to screw up and forget...go ahead and ask again. But be clear you screwed up and now everybody gets you hear you clog the freq fixing your error.

    I'm dead nuts serious there is no shame in asking, I certianly don't want to discourage it. But better form would be to not forget in the first place.
     
  5. cleared4theoption

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    Anyone else see the contradictions in this post?
     
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    Not really, no, and Captain has been an a-hole lately, so it's not like I'm batting for him.
     
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    Saying that someone should feel stupid for making a mistake and then clogging the frequency, and then saying there is no shame in asking:dunno:
     
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    Those two are not mutually exclusive. Yes, you should feel a tiny amount of shame in making a mistake and clogging the frequency (we all have, I know I have. I'm sure Captain did too.) But if you truly aren't sure, freakin' ask.

    I would.
     
  9. cleared4theoption

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    I guess I just feel like people should be encouraged to ask questions and be safe...and telling someone they should feel stupid for reconfirming something, even if they made a mistake, to me is counterproductive.

    But I disagree with one part of your post...I don't think Captain makes mistakes....:no:
     
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    I guess I have been a tad out of sorts lately. Sorry. Maybe it's these damn shingles.

    Yes, ANY doubt then ask. And yes, Ive asked. Happens once or twice a moth or so I'd guess.
     
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    I don't usually do it, but if you have two radios, monitoring Tower while set to listen/transmit on Ground, isn't a bad idea. If your brain can handle it. ;)
     
  12. jnmeade

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    You may be right about your Bonanza, but my experience is with Citations, King Airs, C401s and so forth at the airports I mentioned and more and in my experience you are wrong but I'm not going to argue about it with you.
     
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  13. flyingron

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    Up until a few years ago, Dulles had no runway crossings. If you crossed a runway, you'd be taxiing in the weeds. Still the ATIS advised pilots to read back all crossing instructions.