Varga Kachina

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  1. acropilot

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    Anyone here have experience with the Varga Kachina aircraft? Specifically the Varga 2150TG, taildragger version? It appears to be a great stick and rudder trainer. Also, I have heard about an experimental version which had an inverted (oil/fuel) system... does that mean it's normally capable of +G acro?

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    No, it means it's capable of positive AND negative G acro. :wink2: But seriously, just because somebody took an airplane, moved it to the Experimental Exhibition category and put inverted systems in does not mean it's suitable for flying in a manner in which it was not designed. Is it an aerobatic design to begin with? I'm not too familiar with the Varga, but I don't think so. You can do all sorts of aerobatics without inverted fuel/oil. Doing aerobatics in a non-aerobatic design is a touchy subject. Almost any airplane can do basic aerobatics. The airplane might be capable of doing certain maneuvers safely, but the pilot might not be. Your safety margin gets a good bit slimmer in non-aerobatic designs. Generally, for anybody wondering if it's OK to do acro in an airplane not designed for it, the answer (for them) is a definite no.
     
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  3. RotorAndWing

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    I flew one years ago, the tri gear version. It flew and handled much like a Cherokee Warrior.

    I wouldn't consider it much in the acro department.
     
  4. Trapper John

    Trapper John Ejection Handle Pulled

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    The original Type Certificate doesn't say anything about Acrobatic category.

    http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_G...510929de8326aa862574bb0055f7f9/$FILE/4A19.pdf

    Note 2 says:

    The following placard must be displayed on the instrument panel in full view of the pilot:
    "OPERATE IN NORMAL OR UTILITY CATEGORY IN COMPLIANCE
    WITH THE APPROVED AIRPLANE FLIGHT MANUAL."


    I wouldn't want to play test pilot with the experimental version.
     
  5. AdamZ

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    There is one that appears every couple of years at the Angel Flight East Wings-N-Wheels static show. Nice place looks like a small chipmunk.
     
  6. EdFred

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    Am I the only one that has to do a double take every time I read the name of this plane?
     
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    Only of the pilot flying it is named Doloris.:idea:
     
  8. Dave Theisen

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    Varga Kachina? I think penicillin and a topical cream will clear that right up.

    Oh wait. This isn't Medical Matters. never mind. :wink2:
     
  9. acropilot

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    Ok, thanks. I realize it isn't certified for aerobatics so that's not on the radar anymore. How is the Varga as far as an initial PPL/tailwheel trainer? I am still interested in any experiences with the aircraft.
     
  10. Pilawt

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    Apparently a company called Montanair tried some extensive mods to the Morrisey/Shinn/Varga design. Info here.

    I came across a tailwheel version of the Montanair in Idaho last year. Pretty airplane (photo below).
     

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    Interesting......I haven't flown one, but there is an outfit here at MYF that uses a couple of Varga Kachinas for air combat adventure rides.
     
  12. RotorAndWing

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    In a Varga? Can't see that as much of an adventure.........:rolleyes2:
     
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    :rofl: :thumbsup:
     
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    That was my thought when you described the handling characteristics as 'warrior-like'

    Here's the link:
    http://www.barnstorming.com/documents/52.html