Touch Screen Avionics are frustrating. (Get off my Lawn!)

Discussion in 'Hangar Talk' started by SixPapaCharlie, Feb 1, 2022.

  1. MooneyDriver78

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    I pinch the bezel lower ledge with my 2 fingers and tap with thumb. Don’t know where you can place 4 fingers without placing them on other avionics and unintentionally pushing other buttons?
     
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    How is that possible? How can you fly ten years and never be in the traffic pattern?

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    after consulting with my personal internet sage I have decided you tell jokes better than any straight man in the history of comedy.
     
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  3. eman1200

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    Cirrus driver.
     
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    I know where there’s a nice Tiger for sale with 530W and 430………;)
     
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    It is Circus driver
     
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    Say it ain't so, Joe! :cool:
     
  7. kontiki

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    I believe the idea is that it's easier and cheaper for the manufacturer to add new functions and features, within limits, because it just takes a software change. I don't think it better for a pilot from a human factors standpoint. Maybe some sort of stabilizing rest could help in some cases.
     
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    In that plane the screens weren't surrounded by other avionics.
     
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    Oh my goodness, I have that problem, except the opposite! When I say "two", ATC invariably repeats it back as "three" (or "tree"). What? I had to resort to saying "twooooooooo", which takes time because my tail number is "twooooooooo, twoooooo, delta".
     
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    As mentioned a few times, iPad + Flightstream + 530W = the best of both worlds :D
     
  11. LesGawlik

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    Agreed. Would add FF to the list.
     
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    Capacitive touch buttons in a car are basically an automatic deal breaker for me. I'm fine with touch screens. Cars(if the most common things have real buttons) or planes. GTN750 in particular is fine to use for me and is more intuitive than G1000.
     
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    Think it’s sunk in yet?
     
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    I managed to go for 35 years before using one of those Garmin things. What a horrible interface... Something about "Direct|Direct."

    You wanna see a superior HMID (Human Machine Interface Design), look at Chelton, Dynon and my favorite, Universal Avionics.

    Most of the experimental only stuff is excellent, too IMHO.
     
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    Cirrus FMS panel for the win! :stirpot:
     
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    also no need for a flight stream being the Avidyne already includes connection to the iPad.
     
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  19. OneCharlieTango

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    It's awful, too. But notice that's it's specific to the databases. I'm not sure if that means anything, but it isn't exactly the same.
     
  20. nauga

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    Maybe it's because they're user-configurable, but I see a trend in experimental glass towards cramming waaaaaay to much information into a small area. That's not my idea of good HMI.

    Nauga,
    and his keyhole scan
     
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    John Wanamaker: "Half the money I spend on advertising is wasted; the trouble is I don't know which half."

    Child of the Magenta: "95% of the info on my glass panel is irrelevant at this moment in flight; the trouble is I don't know which ... [sound of impact]."